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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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for another night of truth seekers where

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we

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explore some of the strangest and most

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mysterious stories on planet earth

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lately i have realized that there are

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a lot of people that make fantastical

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supernatural claims

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in the new age and consciousness

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spirituality

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ufo community

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and uh we have in the past gone after

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some of those fakers fraudsters and

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fairy tale hucksters but i began to

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think that it's not really

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fair leaving out a big player in the

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world

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of fantastical some would say ridiculous

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supernatural claims and that would be

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the catholic church

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we did a show previously on

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incorruptable bodies

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a subject that i find fascinating

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uh according to catholicism

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and the catholic priests who educated me

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as a child

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when a saint dies their bodies don't rot

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that's how we know that they are

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of uh in heaven with god that they are

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indeed a saint

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it's one of the testers for becoming

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canadized they call it as a saint after

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your death

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they dig up your body and check in to

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see how rotten you are and if you're not

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rotten then you're a saint

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or at least that's one sign pointing to

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you being a saint

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one of the most uh one of the saints

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and supernatural claims that i am most

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familiar with both from my childhood and

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from recent sort of re-educating myself

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is one padre pio

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if you don't know the story of padre pio

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it is an amazing story

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he was born uh

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let me see in 1887

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in uh python cena

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a town in the proverbs of beninvento

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in the southern italian region of

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captain i'm sorry capania

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his parents were actually peasant

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he was baptized in a nearby chapel

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uh his his parents also had two other

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infancy um when he was baptized he was

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given the name francesco

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he stated that by the time he was five

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years old he had

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already made the decision to dedicate

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he worked on the land with his father

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and he looked after a small flock of

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sheep that his family

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owned so from very meager beginnings

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comes this man

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who would become in time

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young francesco where padre pio was

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afflicted with a number of illnesses

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very frail health a very sickly

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when he became a priest early on in his

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or monk actually he uh

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basically went to a special place that

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priests of frail and failing health

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the supernatural claims about uh

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he vomited frequently and he can only

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milk and cheese religious devotees point

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that inexplicable phenomena allegedly

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during prayers for example pio appeared

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to have seen him in ecstasy

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or supernatural abilities was the

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ability to appear

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a sick villager while he was

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in fact saying mass in the local church

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i found that to be uh sort of

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interesting and it's not

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like there's one report of this there is

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varying reports of this and even reports

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incredibly interesting there's a lot of

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some discussion of some ability to

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appear in two places at once

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would come in handy if you got a lot of

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chores to do i suppose

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uh so you know his his health kept

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send him to a mountain convent and hope

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change in the air would do him good it

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palyoshensy of the catholic cathedral

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benevito four days later he offered his

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first mass the parish church of our lady

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of the angels his health being long

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family until 1916 while still

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uh capuchin habit that was his order

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yeah i don't want to get get too far

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into reading all of this

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i found some excellent videos which i

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thought may be a little more informative

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that uh could explain some of this

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strange and supernatural claims and of

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huge problem with is the claim that his

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that is a completely and totally false

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claim uh made by the catholic church

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i found some old news reports that were

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saintly person even before his death

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declared him a saint so let's see if we

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gonna cite fair use but i believe that

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this is put out by the catholic church

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citing fair use so that we can use this

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famous studied and loved saints of our

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time grew up

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not at all surprised when he decided to

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confessions to which he dedicated

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uh farm town basically of peasants

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town but uh 14 hours a day is a lot of

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i've been to confession i mean unless

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you know 85 murders and you're a serial

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killer you're in and out of the

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confessional in five minutes

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i don't know so i found the claim of

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spending 14 hours a day taking

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would spend 14 hours a day praying

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that adds up to 28 hours so i'm not sure

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if the catholic church can do second

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grade math i think they can

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you cannot be praying for 14 hours and

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taking confessions for 14 hours

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i could think of for this discrepancy in

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but it is what it is friends show to the

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world a great saint

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man who decided to devote his life to

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the service of god and men

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reveal signs of the same wounds

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the nails and spear that penetrated his

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passion of christ but he didn't need

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these external signs

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he said why do i need this confusion

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because he knew the expectations that

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these stigmas would spark around him

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to the physical

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this is a real stigmata i don't know

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what the determinating factor for that

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is

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but i do know i did a little bit of

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research in digging and asked a catholic

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priest who is a theology

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professor and catholic priest um

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i asked that priest

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did they ever did padre pio or the

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vatican ever allow

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any scientific study of this stigmata

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and the answer was

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no uh he was seen by doctors for his

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various health

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uh ailments i guess but they

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never studied there was never a formal

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scientific study done of

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these claimed or alleged

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uh stigmata wounds what was their

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source what was their cause

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maybe so

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at the end of the day again uh

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in the catholic faith everything is

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faith you can't really

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question the validity or the

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the genuineness of this man having the

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wounds of christ and that god gave him

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those wounds

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for whatever reason um you're just

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supposed to have faith

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um the vatican and the pope certified

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that it was real

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so as a catholic believer you're just

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supposed to go uh-huh

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uh i have a little bit of a problem with

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the fact that

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there was never any scientific study

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done to determine if there was maybe

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some other cause

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i mean he could have had some i don't

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know i i don't i'm not a doctor so i

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hate to speculate but he could have had

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some

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strange disease skin disease maybe

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but uh it seems strange to me like why

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would that only affect

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his hands and his feet and his side

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right where the

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apparent wounds of christ are supposed

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to be from the crucifixion

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so it's a mystery why does he have these

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stigmata wounds

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but uh the catholic priest and theology

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professor

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that i spoke to said that perhaps god

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gave him

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those to draw people to him because he

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was

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a genuine christ-like holy figure

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and saintly man and perhaps

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that priest theorized that god gave him

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the gift of the stigmata

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so that he would become a sensation and

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that

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people would be drawn to him for his

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ministry

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and his message signs on his body

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his pastoral care for those who visited

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san giovanni rotondo and the miracles

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attributed to him

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he received hundreds of letters from

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people asking for his help

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there were so many that the brothers of

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his order had to help him read them all

359
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he didn't rest much yet he was still

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happy to avoid possible confusion the

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vatican asked him to live a non-public

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life

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and he obeyed yeah this is

364
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there is a point at which the vatican

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made him

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stop being a public priest if that makes

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any sense that he was not allowed to

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have a public ministry

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but it had to do with a lot of

370
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allegations

371
00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:47,440
not uh to avoid confusion i don't know

372
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this video

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is put out by the pope or the vatican

374
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and they're saying to avoid confusion he

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was asked not to lead a public life

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and he did so for two years no uh there

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was

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an incredible amount of allegations

379
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against him

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that forced the catholic church to sort

381
00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:06,880
of punish him and say

382
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you can't be a public priest anymore and

383
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some of those

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allegations were financial in nature

385
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which is uh

386
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strange to me basically many of the

387
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other local

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00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:21,280
priests monks whatever were reporting

389
00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:22,799
him to the vatican

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saying that he was a wicked and an evil

391
00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:27,600
man

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00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:30,960
it's a crazy story i guess there's two

393
00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:33,360
sides to every story is the guy a saint

394
00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:35,679
or is he a despicable wicked man

395
00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:37,360
according to the other priests in the

396
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area who

397
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:41,520
repeatedly many of them reported him to

398
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the vatican for one reason or another

399
00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:46,640
now i will say that the priests that i

400
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:48,080
spoke to say that

401
00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:50,080
uh some people believe that that was

402
00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:51,760
simply jealousy

403
00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:53,919
because priests are human like everybody

404
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:56,480
else and these local priests

405
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:59,039
local to him did not like the incredible

406
00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:00,320
amount of attention

407
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:02,240
that he would get all the pilgrims

408
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:04,320
coming in constantly every day

409
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:06,320
to hear him say mass or to have their

410
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:08,160
confession taken by him

411
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,640
or to ask for his prayers it was like a

412
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:15,360
an assembly line every day new people

413
00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:17,360
would be arriving at the church

414
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:20,480
that he lived uh to see him to

415
00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:21,440
experience

416
00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:26,240
his i suppose miraculous

417
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,110
eleven years later pope pius xii allowed

418
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,520
him to continue his public ministry

419
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:37,039
and he received catholics and

420
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:42,630
they say a person came to padre pio to

421
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:44,960
ask for his help in building a hospital

422
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:47,360
he was a doctor or engineer he said i

423
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:48,559
don't believe in god

424
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:50,960
and by the people responded don't worry

425
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,320
god believes in you

426
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:54,400
today his witness is still remembered

427
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,440
and celebrated

428
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:58,000
his example and words continue to lead

429
00:20:01,590 --> 00:19:59,919
those devoted to him in all

430
00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:01,600
apart from the extraordinary events

431
00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:03,520
surrounding padre pio's life it was his

432
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:05,520
simplicity and care for others that

433
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:06,000
still

434
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,669
okay and so

435
00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:18,630
there are various miracles most of them

436
00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:19,280
about

437
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,039
healing and this padre pio healing

438
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:26,159
even terminally ill people

439
00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:30,799
which is interesting to me but again

440
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:33,440
the catholic church is big on huge

441
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,080
claims

442
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,559
and very light on any kind of scientific

443
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:38,320
evidence in other words

444
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:41,919
they're claiming that this man would

445
00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:45,120
lay his stigmata having hands on

446
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,440
people that were terminally ill and they

447
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:49,600
would be miraculously cured

448
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:52,080
but we don't get to see like lab reports

449
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:53,840
that they were terminally ill before he

450
00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:54,320
did this

451
00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:57,120
and then lab reports after showing that

452
00:21:02,950 --> 00:20:59,440
they're no longer terminally ill

453
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:02,960
so to me this is a claim and it's an

454
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,720
unproven claim and listen i just want to

455
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:08,640
be sure that i mention that i don't want

456
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,320
anybody to get the wrong idea that i'm

457
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:12,240
bashing a saint here

458
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:15,760
uh by all reports this man was a very

459
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:16,880
pious

460
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:21,679
humble uh helpful

461
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:25,039
warm human being

462
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:27,039
i guess i just have a problem with the

463
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:29,120
catholic church making all these claims

464
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,760
and yes there is money to be made on

465
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:32,880
these claims and we'll

466
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,600
uh unpack a little more of that later

467
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:36,799
money in the form of

468
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:39,840
pilgrims and pilgrimages and people who

469
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:40,799
pay good money

470
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:44,320
to go visit now the uh

471
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,990
now i found another more modern video

472
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,280
that we're gonna

473
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:55,280
we're gonna check into that video as

474
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:56,480
well which is

475
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:59,039
a much more modern look uh much more

476
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:00,080
modern made

477
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:03,679
video that explains why padre pio

478
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,400
or i guess it speculates about why padre

479
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:08,080
pio got the

480
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:10,720
uh got the stigmata and tells a little

481
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:11,360
bit of

482
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:14,720
the story more of of this saints

483
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:17,760
story uh i'm gonna cite fair use but

484
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,870
i think this is a catholic uh non-profit

485
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,720
organization that would not mind us

486
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:28,480
using their video for educational

487
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:29,919
purposes but

488
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,880
i will still cite fair use and say we're

489
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:34,720
using this is a transformative work

490
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:37,919
we are using this clip from this video

491
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:39,280
to educate the public

492
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:41,679
about the mysteries surrounding padre

493
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:42,400
pio

494
00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:52,390
okay i have this queued up

495
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,789
oh wrong one

496
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:00,630
one second let me try that again friends

497
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:04,799
live show it's it's gonna happen

498
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:08,480
that's the next one okay so

499
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:13,280
okay here we go this is from ewtn

500
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:15,440
vaticano which i think is the vatican

501
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:16,400
television

502
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,120
channel um but again we're going to cite

503
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,799
fair use this is transformative work

504
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:22,240
we're using this clip to educate the

505
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:23,520
public

506
00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:26,720
and there's the right one

507
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,190
there we go

508
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,149
the name of the city is forever linked

509
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:39,679
with one of the most popular

510
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:41,039
contemporary saints

511
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:47,430
today san giovanni rotondo hosts the

512
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:48,799
shrine dedicated

513
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:55,830
and this is the church that padre pio

514
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,029
when the young novice francisco forgione

515
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:05,520
the baptismal name of padre pio

516
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,200
arrived here on july the 28th 1916

517
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:11,679
there was only a convent in the middle

518
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:12,559
of a wood

519
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:18,710
we're right by the convent where he

520
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,520
spent

521
00:24:23,149 --> 00:24:22,000
his years and a convent was established

522
00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:23,159
here in the year

523
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,960
1538 and then in the year 1646 was

524
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:28,000
dedicated

525
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:31,360
to our lady of graces

526
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:34,240
the church santa maria delle grazia

527
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:34,720
built

528
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:37,200
on the site of the old church was

529
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:38,080
constructed

530
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:42,480
in 1956 today it is the central focus of

531
00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:43,600
the sanctuary

532
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,919
and the repaired and preserved body of

533
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:47,039
padre pio

534
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,990
so much like the st john newman body

535
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:55,279
that i described

536
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,840
uh seeing as a child in philadelphia in

537
00:25:03,110 --> 00:24:59,520
center city philadelphia

538
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:03,120
uh they have his body which is uh

539
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,000
said to not be correct it's said to be

540
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:08,000
incorruptable and i have a huge problem

541
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:08,799
with this term

542
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:12,159
incorruptible because now this is

543
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:14,960
the the general meaning that uh

544
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:17,279
catholics have come to know

545
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:20,720
know is that the body does not rot uh

546
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,600
but it really depends on who you ask for

547
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:25,520
the definition what is the definition of

548
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:26,240
that

549
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:29,440
uh there is a great

550
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:32,559
divide some say it just means that the

551
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,360
body

552
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:35,679
rots slower some say it just means that

553
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:36,559
the body is

554
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:41,440
flexible uh flexible and not rotting or

555
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,480
to me it's two different things but uh

556
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,720
like st john newman which is a source of

557
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:49,200
income they put padre pio's body

558
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:52,240
on display in the church that he served

559
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:52,799
at

560
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:56,320
in this chapel and uh it is a

561
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,799
pilgrimage point and thousands and

562
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,480
thousands of people come from all over

563
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:01,679
the world

564
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:04,960
uh to go to that

565
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:08,159
go to that chapel pray and

566
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:11,440
view the incorruptable allegedly

567
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:23,669
now i have to say this one looks so much

568
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:24,320
better

569
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:28,080
than the fake really fake looking uh

570
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,360
wax mask of saint john newman

571
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:33,200
that is covering saint john newman's

572
00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:34,720
skull basically

573
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:37,919
in center city philadelphia boy this one

574
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:38,480
looks

575
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:42,640
doesn't look like a man who has been

576
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,520
dead for many many years does it

577
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:47,279
better job on this one i'll give the

578
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:48,640
catholic church that

579
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:51,200
much better job on that on this one and

580
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,000
we'll find out

581
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:54,799
why uh as we continue to unpack this i

582
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:56,559
don't want to spill the beans just yet

583
00:27:16,789 --> 00:26:58,880
about why this one looks so much better

584
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:18,710
here we may have some clue about the

585
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:20,880
actual condition of the body

586
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:24,480
because although some steps were taken

587
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:27,600
to uh to the face right

588
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,480
uh here we could see the hands and their

589
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:32,720
actual state of

590
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:35,200
what looks to me like probably normal

591
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,799
human decomposition

592
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,520
for the age of the body and how long it

593
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:41,279
has been dead

594
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:43,840
again we'll unpack more of this later

595
00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:44,480
you

596
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:48,520
suffered intensely through the

597
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:51,360
transverbation that lance appeared his

598
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:51,919
side

599
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,880
on the fifth of august 1918 then in the

600
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:56,080
stigmata

601
00:28:02,710 --> 00:27:59,600
a month later yes so apparently

602
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:02,720
uh lance he got the the

603
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:06,320
side wound first and then sometime later

604
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:09,840
the uh wounds appeared on his hands

605
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:13,360
and his and his feet which are all the

606
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:16,480
crucifixion wounds of christ

607
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,360
the stigmata when a person receives them

608
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:20,799
from the lord

609
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,399
they are a participation in his passion

610
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,279
his death and so a person is stamped

611
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:29,360
with the same wounds that jesus christ

612
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:35,430
entering the convent we met the friar

613
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:36,399
guardian

614
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,760
carlo maria laborde father carlo leads

615
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:41,919
us through the long corridor

616
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:44,320
to reveal the spiritual heart of the

617
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:50,470
at the moment we're in a cell that used

618
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,000
to be padre pio's room

619
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,240
he started living here 102 years ago

620
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,399
when he arrived in 1916.

621
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,399
he came here for health reasons looking

622
00:29:01,029 --> 00:29:00,159
for a more suitable environment for his

623
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,039
state of health

624
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:03,200
and consequently this small room was

625
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:04,480
assigned to it

626
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:06,880
this room padre pio practically always

627
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,840
kept

628
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,360
it's very important because of some of

629
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:10,960
the events that happened here during

630
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:12,080
those years

631
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:15,520
yeah and we see a very humble

632
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:18,480
uh simple room with like a bed and a

633
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:19,200
desk and

634
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,480
not much more and this is where he was

635
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:23,520
said to pray

636
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,990
yeah i've read a lot of different

637
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,000
stories of him being so intent

638
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:37,279
in prayer that his brothers his

639
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,600
monk brothers would try to call him to

640
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:41,360
meals and he would not

641
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,960
respond he was literally entranced in

642
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:45,600
prayer

643
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:48,799
for hours and hours a day taking that

644
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,520
what you will

645
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:51,919
but it's an interesting uh side note to

646
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,399
the story of padre pio that he would

647
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,200
put himself into a trailer into an

648
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:59,520
actual trance and be unresponsive for

649
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:02,159
hours and hours at a time

650
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,520
through prayer and eventually

651
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,320
the brothers would be able to you know

652
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,399
get him to respond to them

653
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:12,080
they knew after a while to just leave

654
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:14,000
him alone for a few hours and go check

655
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:15,200
on him again

656
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,640
some hours later where uh you know

657
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,720
depending on the time i guess uh how

658
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,240
long he was in these trances he would

659
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,720
become more responsive

660
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:26,640
padre pio was here on august the 5th

661
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,760
1918

662
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:30,000
a month before the stigmata appeared he

663
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:31,440
was confessing a group of young

664
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,880
seminarians in this room

665
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,120
as he was their spiritual director at a

666
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,720
certain point he tells in a letter

667
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,480
addressed to his spiritual director

668
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,480
a mysterious character appeared who

669
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:42,320
threw a kind of iron instrument

670
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,240
that pierced his heart and that

671
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:46,320
character was christ

672
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,640
temporarily the heart of padre pio is

673
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:50,720
located here it was placed in this

674
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:51,440
reliquary

675
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,200
that pope benedict blessed when he

676
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:55,600
visited this sanctuary on june the 21st

677
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,720
2009 on the occasion of the exhumation

678
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,880
so the heart was placed in this relic

679
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,840
way

680
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,080
yeah so uh they took the heart out of

681
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,000
the body and placed it in this

682
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:09,039
uh sort of fancy box i forget he said

683
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:11,200
reliquary i think that's the catholic

684
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,640
word for it and a

685
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,519
reliquary is where a relic of a saint

686
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:17,360
will be placed and there's many of these

687
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:18,320
all over the world

688
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:21,519
some of them hold bones of the apostles

689
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:24,240
or claimed bones of the apostles or

690
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:25,200
saints

691
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:29,600
uh there is a a lot of weird reliquaries

692
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:32,559
some of will have the hand of a saint in

693
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:32,799
it

694
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,240
a heart um some other organ

695
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:39,039
it's a strange practice which i don't

696
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,519
really

697
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,000
feel like the catholic priests ever

698
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,240
fully explain to me why that is

699
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,320
i guess people just want a piece of that

700
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,799
saintly person

701
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:50,240
after his death there were several

702
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:51,919
shirts found with blood stains

703
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,559
evidently padre pio had a wound it's not

704
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:56,320
known if it was permanent perhaps he

705
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:57,519
suffered from these wounds while

706
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,559
celebrating mass

707
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:00,399
he also suffered the flagellation and

708
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,840
the crown of thorns

709
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:03,760
or maybe they appeared on fridays or

710
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,240
during lent on some particular day

711
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,880
for those unaware of the flagellation uh

712
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:10,240
is

713
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:13,760
the back

714
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:15,919
and for people that have the stigmata if

715
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,039
they also experience

716
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,519
the flagellation wounds they will get

717
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,840
lashes and welts and things on their

718
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:23,760
back that bleed

719
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:27,440
and uh and front really it depends

720
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,640
uh and these shirts were found with

721
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,559
blood stains all over them

722
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,720
which to me is just an interesting part

723
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:37,200
of the story and maybe proof that he had

724
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:40,559
some sort of bleeding wounds

725
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:42,640
but certainly this relic proves what

726
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,559
john paul ii later said

727
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,799
that padre pio had a very painful wound

728
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:48,320
there that he said

729
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:54,389
and a second note the crown of thorns

730
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:56,080
sometimes people who experience

731
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,919
the stigmata if they're also gifted with

732
00:33:03,830 --> 00:32:59,519
the crown of thorns

733
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:03,840
they will get uh you know like

734
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:07,120
puncture wounds around their head like

735
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:09,039
christ did i suppose from a crown of

736
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:10,080
thorns which will then

737
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,559
bleed again a kind of a crazy

738
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:16,799
supernatural claim

739
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:19,600
saint padre pio suffered physically but

740
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:20,480
perhaps his

741
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,360
moral sufferings were even greater

742
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,039
because during his life

743
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:28,159
there were all sorts of accusations and

744
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:36,470
stefano campanella author of many books

745
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:37,440
about the saint

746
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:40,159
gives us more details on this difficult

747
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:40,880
period

748
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,070
we are inside the inner chapel of the

749
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:50,720
convent also known as the sacculum

750
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,880
where padre pio celebrated mass and

751
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:54,240
solitude from june

752
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,919
1931 until june 1933

753
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,919
when the holy office banned him from all

754
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,360
priestly activities

755
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:03,039
with the exception of celebrating the

756
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:04,399
holy mass in private

757
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:06,640
at the presence of maximum of one other

758
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:12,550
and also for those that don't know a

759
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:14,960
catholic priest must say the mass once a

760
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:15,359
week

761
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:21,520
even if they take away a priest's right

762
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:22,240
to

763
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,560
say the mass in public generally as a

764
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:26,480
form of discipline for some reason i

765
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,119
don't know

766
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:29,679
that's about but uh they will still be

767
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:31,040
allowed to say the mass

768
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:34,159
in private or with a number of other

769
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:34,639
people

770
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,800
different restrictions depending on the

771
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:38,800
i guess sin that they're being punished

772
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,119
for

773
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,359
against the catholic church methanol

774
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:43,520
says that the worst accusations

775
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:46,000
came from the local clergy out of

776
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,720
jealousy

777
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:49,200
they reported to the vatican that padre

778
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,639
pio was a greedy

779
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,040
and wicked monk and that his influence

780
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,119
was harmful to the people

781
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,520
as a consequence the vatican imposed

782
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,119
severe restrictions

783
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,839
and forbade padre pio from public

784
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,440
ministry

785
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:06,160
and again the allegations against him

786
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:06,720
what they

787
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:09,920
actually were uh it depends on who you

788
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:10,400
ask

789
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:14,240
several different answers from several

790
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:15,440
different people

791
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:19,040
uh affiliated with the catholic church a

792
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:20,640
media spokesperson gave me

793
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:24,000
one explanation which seemed

794
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:25,760
sort of like just brushing off that the

795
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,760
allegations they were just allegations

796
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:28,960
they were never proven

797
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:32,079
and there's jealousy within the clergy

798
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,119
local to him um and and and

799
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:37,440
other people that you ask that sort of

800
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:38,320
uh

801
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:41,280
aren't on the side you might say of the

802
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,400
catholic church

803
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:45,200
have a darker view of what those

804
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,119
allegations were about

805
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:50,160
some involved uh you know his influence

806
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:51,599
on the town

807
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,560
his apparent greed which flies in the

808
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:56,320
face of this priestly

809
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:59,520
holy saintly image that he and the

810
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:00,800
catholic church

811
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,760
sort of pushed then i found that very

812
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,000
interesting

813
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:08,800
replying to this injustice padre pio

814
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,079
used to say

815
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:12,880
we kiss the hand of our mother when it

816
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:13,200
is

817
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:25,349
he chose to be obedient to the church at

818
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,400
any cost after two years of obedience

819
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:33,119
padre pio was allowed to return to his

820
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,550
ministry

821
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,560
under the tender gaze of our lady of

822
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:45,599
graces here padre pio celebrated daily

823
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,160
mass

824
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:48,880
and heard confessions this chapel was a

825
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:50,960
well of his spiritual strength

826
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:54,640
and a source of all miracles and graces

827
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:57,520
even today there is a never-ending flow

828
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,560
of pilgrims

829
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,880
that pray before the blessed sacrament

830
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:02,880
and leave prayer petitions at padre

831
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:08,720
pio's confessional

832
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:10,720
at the back of the church on the balcony

833
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,000
there is a big wooden cross

834
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:17,040
right here when in deep prayer padre pio

835
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:18,640
received the stigmata

836
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:22,000
in 1918. this phenomenon continued for

837
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,710
walking through the sacristy we met

838
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:32,400
father marcia nomura

839
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:35,680
setting up things for mars father

840
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:36,560
marciano

841
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:39,280
is the last living friar in san giovanni

842
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,160
rotondo

843
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:42,960
who lived with padre pio i just wanted

844
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:43,280
to

845
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:45,359
mention that this announcer or this

846
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:47,359
person mentioned that the

847
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:48,720
the stigmata would stay with them

848
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:50,240
throughout his entire life but

849
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:51,119
apparently

850
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:54,400
the day that he died the stigmata wounds

851
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:58,160
disappeared from his body

852
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:01,200
that's again a claim i don't know

853
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:03,520
about the accuracy of that claim but i

854
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,800
find it pretty interesting

855
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:07,200
part of the story that he would have the

856
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:08,240
stigmata

857
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:10,000
while he was alive but then as soon as

858
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:11,920
he died it would disappear

859
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:14,560
and how do wounds just disappear after

860
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,640
someone passes away

861
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:18,480
except i suppose through some

862
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:20,480
supernatural means and i think that's

863
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,750
what was my first impression when i met

864
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:31,680
padre pio he reminded me of a

865
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:32,640
grandfather

866
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,160
beautiful

867
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:38,640
he was so affectionate kind and had kind

868
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,510
father marciano says that during

869
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:49,520
confession padre pio

870
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,880
took sins onto his own shoulders it was

871
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,599
a moment of deep union with the

872
00:39:04,230 --> 00:38:57,359
sufferings of christ

873
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,470
i saw padre pio stigmata but i saw them

874
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:07,920
because i was serving mass

875
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:10,240
serving mass was a privilege i remember

876
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,280
that before leaving

877
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,119
padre pio used to stand here and get

878
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,839
vested before going to the altar

879
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,680
before going to the altar he took his

880
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:18,880
gloves off

881
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,480
therefore he used to celebrate mass

882
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,560
without his gloves yeah and it's

883
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:24,400
well known that he wore gloves most of

884
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,240
the time because of the stigmata these

885
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,000
wounds would bleed

886
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:30,720
a lot and at various times so generally

887
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:31,040
he

888
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,760
that people could witness

889
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,599
the miracle of the stigmata that he was

890
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,839
apparently gifted with

891
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,000
back in the secrecy padre pio allowed

892
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:44,160
his wounded hands without gloves on

893
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:47,599
to be kissed a great privilege

894
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,839
one morning after i'd served mass i went

895
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:51,359
back to the sacristy and before he put

896
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,560
his gloves back on

897
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:54,560
he offered his hand for me to kiss it i

898
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,160
took it very delicately

899
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,320
and i brought it to my lips what did i

900
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,960
see i put it back very slowly to take

901
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,079
its image in

902
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:04,240
there was a large scab of blood on it

903
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:05,920
and where the scab was broken

904
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,790
the lord chose to give padre pio the

905
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:22,079
stigmata

906
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:25,119
for the sake of the body the church

907
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:28,480
they were assigned to others of his

908
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:31,680
credibility his credibility as a

909
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,800
confessor

910
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:35,599
his credibility as a man who could read

911
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:36,480
souls

912
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,200
so people were drawn to padre pio

913
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:42,000
because of the stigmata god used that

914
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:45,440
but then when they were in his presence

915
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:48,720
he gave them a word for their lives

916
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,000
certainly to lead them perhaps from

917
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,720
sinful ways lead them from very

918
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,319
difficult situation

919
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:58,800
sufferings in order that they could

920
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,599
encounter

921
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:02,240
the resurrection interesting you know

922
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:02,880
that

923
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:06,319
for padri pio he bore those stigmata for

924
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:09,680
over 50 years but then

925
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,040
immediately after his death the stigmata

926
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,760
disappeared so they were a ministry

927
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,960
given to him

928
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,440
for this life to bring other souls to

929
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,839
christ they were not for themselves

930
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:24,319
they were not for sensationalism but

931
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,190
yes so interesting again uh

932
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:37,440
the priest that i talked to about this

933
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:38,400
uh who

934
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,400
is a theologian um

935
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:44,319
told me that the the general belief was

936
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:45,920
that he was given this

937
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:48,400
gift of the stigmata to draw people to

938
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,359
him and

939
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:51,520
by extension to the catholic faith the

940
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:52,400
catholic church

941
00:42:00,950 --> 00:42:00,150
i just have one last quick thing to

942
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,960
share

943
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:03,200
in our presentation this evening which

944
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:05,119
is i wanted to make sure that everybody

945
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:06,319
got a good view

946
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,000
of the allegedly incorruptible body

947
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,040
of padre pio so i have found

948
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,400
a pilgrim that made a video

949
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,079
which is very good because it shows

950
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:20,000
pretty close images

951
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:22,800
of padre pio's body which is preserved

952
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:23,359
at

953
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,440
san giovanni rotunda in italy

954
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,680
let's uh and again we're going to cite

955
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,359
fair use we're using this video

956
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:33,200
to this is a transformative work and

957
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,960
we're using this video to educate the

958
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:36,960
public about the mysterious

959
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:39,760
padre pio uh this video is about his

960
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,880
incorruptible body

961
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,040
i wanted to share with my audience some

962
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:45,200
very good views of that allegedly

963
00:42:51,599 --> 00:43:24,829
here we are

964
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:38,829
so

965
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,030
it's a little creepy to just have a

966
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:51,440
human body laying out like that but

967
00:44:34,829 --> 00:43:53,119
i mean it is what it is this is what

968
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:51,430
good so

969
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:54,480
we're gonna pause it right here

970
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:57,520
i mentioned uh that

971
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:01,200
um this one

972
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:04,800
looks much much better than the

973
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,720
uh wax face of saint john newman that i

974
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,560
saw in center city philadelphia that

975
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,319
looked completely fake and i knew

976
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,240
that that wasn't a body i knew it was

977
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,000
fake right away

978
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:18,560
and i asked myself as a child if i had

979
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:19,599
seen this one

980
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:22,000
would i think that incorruptibility was

981
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:22,720
real

982
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:26,079
the answer i think is yeah

983
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,880
this one looks like a real human body it

984
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,040
looks like a real human face and look at

985
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:32,720
that how fresh

986
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:35,920
that it looks like it just

987
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:38,560
this person is sleeping and still alive

988
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,240
it doesn't look like a dead

989
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,720
decaying rotting body that has been dead

990
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:44,480
for decades

991
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:48,640
uh even though it is and so

992
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:52,079
i wanted to know did the catholic church

993
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,200
give this

994
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:55,680
any help or was this supposed to be or

995
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:57,920
claimed to be the actual face of padre

996
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:58,880
pio's

997
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:02,160
now allegedly incorruptible body

998
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,480
and again ask the catholic priest that

999
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,480
is a theologian

1000
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:09,440
uh you know uh and he he teaches

1001
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:10,319
theology

1002
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:13,599
and catholic you know catholic religion

1003
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:18,160
classes told me uh a disappointing truth

1004
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:21,119
this friends is not the face of padre

1005
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:21,839
pio

1006
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,440
this is a silicon mask

1007
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:28,079
that was created by artists from the

1008
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:28,800
vatican

1009
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:32,640
and placed over the decaying

1010
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,079
face of padre pia

1011
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:38,079
it's a big disappointment it's a big

1012
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,520
letdown

1013
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:41,760
and i don't understand how the catholic

1014
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:43,520
church can sort of

1015
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,640
push this narrative that this saint

1016
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,480
is incorruptable and we're going to put

1017
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:49,920
him in a box and you can

1018
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,839
pay a few bucks and you know have a

1019
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,680
pilgrimage and come here and view the

1020
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,079
body the incorruptible body of padre

1021
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,200
pio but it's not incorruptible

1022
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,160
in fact the fingers that we saw earlier

1023
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,680
give some indication i

1024
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:05,760
specifically asked this theology

1025
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,800
professor about that and he said yeah

1026
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,839
no help was given to the fingers

1027
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,280
he thinks that they were a little

1028
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:15,040
sensitive about the hands they didn't

1029
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:15,839
want to

1030
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,640
do anything with the hands because this

1031
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,000
these were the hands that

1032
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,319
were gifted with the stigmata so they

1033
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,920
didn't do anything to the hands and we

1034
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:25,520
saw the condition of the hands they were

1035
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:26,079
black

1036
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:30,640
rotting as any normal human

1037
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:33,760
would rot for that time being dead

1038
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,000
so this is a clever illusion

1039
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:40,000
uh and i believe that this clever

1040
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:41,440
illusion is

1041
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:45,359
cast to make money it's a huge

1042
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:48,319
money source for the local church

1043
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,440
especially

1044
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:51,680
but i'm sure they gotta kick up you know

1045
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:52,480
to the

1046
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,240
that money that people are leaving in

1047
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:57,760
those collection plates

1048
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:01,440
all those pilgrims coming there uh

1049
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:04,880
i've seen multiple multiple uh

1050
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:08,400
sort of explanations of just how many

1051
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,160
just how many people are going and

1052
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,240
trying to see the body of padre pio

1053
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:16,160
they're packed every day they're packed

1054
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:17,280
with new pilgrims

1055
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:20,000
every day this little obscure church in

1056
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:21,599
the middle of nowhere

1057
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:30,230
so and we see this sort of uh oh we've

1058
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,960
got an incorruptible body in our chapel

1059
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,880
uh really all over the world there's

1060
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,079
many different

1061
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:38,960
examples of this practice which to me is

1062
00:49:24,870 --> 00:48:39,280
a

1063
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:24,880
except

1064
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,680
yeah you know it's just not real

1065
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:32,160
it's just not real and we'll watch a

1066
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:41,510
and there we can see and not so good as

1067
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,079
we saw

1068
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,800
before view of the rotting hands of

1069
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,079
padre pio

1070
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:48,240
they didn't get help so those appear to

1071
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:49,280
be normal

1072
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:52,640
decomposing human hands you know with

1073
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:53,680
the decomposition

1074
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,240
level that i'm not a pathologist or you

1075
00:50:21,349 --> 00:49:58,160
know a coroner but it looks like yeah

1076
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:32,309
definitely a little morbid

1077
00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:48,950
it did a good job on the mask

1078
00:50:48,960 --> 00:51:06,829
these are pieces from the museum

1079
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:23,430
so

1080
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:29,440
you know i guess what i'm left with

1081
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:30,000
really

1082
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:33,440
is more questions than answers

1083
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:36,400
why can we not uh get to the truth of

1084
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,240
what the allegations against him that

1085
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:39,920
caused the catholic church to shut him

1086
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:41,920
down for many years

1087
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,240
why can we not get some specific details

1088
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:48,480
of what those allegations were

1089
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:51,680
and why do i get different answers to my

1090
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:53,839
questions depending on who i ask

1091
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:56,480
uh i've i've not gotten a straight

1092
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,040
answer

1093
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,160
about what those what those

1094
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:03,440
allegations were all about but it's

1095
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,000
it's the catholic church doesn't just

1096
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:07,680
take an allegation against a priest and

1097
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:08,319
punish him

1098
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:10,400
there's some sort of process there so

1099
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:11,440
there had to be

1100
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:13,680
some validity to the complaints against

1101
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:14,480
him

1102
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:17,520
by the local clergy members

1103
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,559
um you know but again that we also have

1104
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:22,800
reports that those people were just

1105
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,359
jealous so uh i find this whole

1106
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:30,160
catholic church it's basically a

1107
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:31,599
catholic church grift

1108
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:34,559
like we're going to put a normal

1109
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:37,359
decaying body in a glass box

1110
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,960
and then we're going to help it along

1111
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:40,720
with either a yet in

1112
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:43,520
st john newman's case a wax mask in

1113
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,720
padre pio's case a silicon mask

1114
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,640
it's like they upped their game right

1115
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,160
they got they got a

1116
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:52,400
silicon mask that's really realistic

1117
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:54,319
they probably made a life cast of his

1118
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:54,880
face

1119
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,839
and you know or just an artist went in

1120
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:00,160
and made a likeness of him in latex

1121
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:03,760
and rubber and you know punched all that

1122
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,200
all the hair in it's a really good uh

1123
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:09,599
it's a really good job it looks totally

1124
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:10,400
realistic

1125
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,359
but it's fake as [\h__\h] but you too can

1126
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:15,040
have a pilgrimage to come and see

1127
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:17,920
our incorruptible saint incorruptability

1128
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:18,400
to me

1129
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:21,200
is a lie this is the second show where

1130
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:22,240
we've touched on this

1131
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,160
concept this catholic concept of

1132
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:26,640
incorruptibility

1133
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:30,079
please if anyone has a genuine example

1134
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:31,680
of an incorruptible body

1135
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,400
that is genuinely not rotting is

1136
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,000
genuinely not decaying

1137
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:37,920
showing normal signs of human decay

1138
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:40,880
please send it to me at truthseekershow

1139
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:44,960
gmail.com i asked around to several

1140
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:46,880
uh different catholic priests and

1141
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:49,599
catholic priest educators

1142
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,720
and they could not give me they couldn't

1143
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:53,920
be sure

1144
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,040
they were like wishy-washy like well

1145
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,200
you know i heard i hear that some of the

1146
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:01,119
cases are really genuine and they don't

1147
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,280
get help like a silicon mask or

1148
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:05,839
a wax mask and i said great well which

1149
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,640
one are those

1150
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,880
i'll go look into those well i don't

1151
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:10,000
really know i just know

1152
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,119
some of them are real uh okay

1153
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:15,440
uh it's like a bait and switch though

1154
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:17,119
for the catholic church to tell people

1155
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:19,280
this is an incorruptible body of a saint

1156
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:19,760
and then

1157
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:23,200
slap a silicon mask on it uh to me that

1158
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:23,599
seems

1159
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,880
really like uh an immoral and unethical

1160
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,079
thing to do especially when you're

1161
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,240
taking money from people

1162
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:32,640
but uh it's the catholic church it's all

1163
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:33,920
about the benjamins

1164
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,880
i like to say father grab a dollar

1165
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,319
they're gonna grab a dollar

1166
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:40,559
any way they can friends and if that

1167
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,160
means faking

1168
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:45,119
uh a body of a saint that's not rotten

1169
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:46,720
and here you can look at this

1170
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:49,040
body of this saint that's not rotten or

1171
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:49,760
decayed

1172
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,880
but it is uh yeah

1173
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:54,559
make sure you put your church envelopes

1174
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:56,319
in throw some money in our collection

1175
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:57,760
plate

1176
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,200
uh i don't know as far as the various

1177
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:04,559
claims of his miracles again these are

1178
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,599
claims and uh

1179
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:09,839
i started our broadcast talking about

1180
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,200
how i

1181
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,000
i and many other people sort of go after

1182
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,480
new age fakes right these fake psychics

1183
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:18,400
these fake whistleblowers fake

1184
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,359
abduction victims fake ufo contactees

1185
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:25,440
we go after them because they're taking

1186
00:55:32,829 --> 00:55:27,200
money from stupid people

1187
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:34,710
but religion

1188
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:37,359
is no different is no better they do the

1189
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:38,319
same thing

1190
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:42,000
maybe they just i don't know get a pass

1191
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:43,920
because they're not like a ufo cult

1192
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:46,160
they're a major religion whatever that

1193
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:47,280
means

1194
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,160
i'm not sure what to think about padre

1195
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:52,319
pio do i think that he

1196
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:55,680
uh was a humble pious man who prayed a

1197
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:56,240
lot

1198
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:58,880
sure do i know that he's a saint in

1199
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:00,960
heaven right now

1200
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:03,359
i don't know i i don't think that any

1201
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,200
man can know that's another problem i

1202
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:07,359
have with catholicism they

1203
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,720
the the general accepted

1204
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,960
teaching on saints and why you declare

1205
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:15,040
them a saint is because you are sure

1206
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:16,000
that they are in heaven

1207
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:19,040
with god i don't know that any man can

1208
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:20,240
be sure

1209
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:23,440
of another man's path to god or heaven

1210
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:26,559
right for all we know some of the saints

1211
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,760
had secrets that they never shared

1212
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,839
maybe they committed immortal sin maybe

1213
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:33,680
they killed somebody maybe they raped

1214
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:35,839
somebody and covered it up

1215
00:56:40,789 --> 00:56:39,200
uh certainly somebody that killed or

1216
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:40,799
raped somebody and covered it up

1217
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,000
wouldn't get into heaven

1218
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:44,880
right uh but but the catholic church

1219
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:46,880
feels confident that they can declare

1220
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:49,280
yes this person is in heaven

1221
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:52,400
i think it's nonsense and part of it's

1222
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,799
just

1223
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,720
some of the things that caused me to

1224
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:56,880
lose faith in the catholic church

1225
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:00,799
as a youngster then we'll take some uh

1226
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,760
we're going to take some i'm going to

1227
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:05,359
turn my total attention to you guys in

1228
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,400
the live chat we're going to take

1229
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,000
comments and questions for

1230
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:11,280
a little while six designs

1231
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:13,040
it's all about the money or maybe just

1232
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,880
lust for the flesh or maybe some heinous

1233
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,559
crime they do with kids sorry you will

1234
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,480
never convince me church is the way to

1235
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:20,319
go

1236
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:30,230
william pixley says they are supposedly

1237
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:31,280
free of sin

1238
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:34,720
perfect of spirit and ascended

1239
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:37,040
yeah maybe they paid david wilcock to

1240
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:39,760
333 dollars before they died william

1241
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,559
pixley

1242
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:42,319
they bought their ticket to ascension

1243
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,549
professor fez says like any organization

1244
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:52,880
it's the management that sucks

1245
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:55,920
i agree the management sucks there

1246
00:58:02,789 --> 00:57:59,680
and you know the systematic cover-up

1247
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:02,799
of the pedophilia uh is really

1248
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:05,839
in it's unexcusable and it's it's

1249
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,000
unforgivable what they did

1250
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,240
but again you gotta try to be a

1251
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:11,680
christian and forgive

1252
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,960
those that wrong you or other people

1253
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,280
and i try but when it comes to children

1254
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,960
and putting so many children in danger

1255
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:20,240
and at risk

1256
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:22,160
i just can't let it go i can't forgive

1257
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:30,150
six's design says baggage a fitting

1258
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:32,079
analogy and a lot of it

1259
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:34,160
yeah and i wanted to ask what do you

1260
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:36,240
guys think of these

1261
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:38,319
shows where we sort of explore some

1262
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,559
catholic mysteries because i've gotta

1263
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,880
i've got a hundred more of them i made a

1264
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:45,359
list not a hundred but i got a bunch

1265
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,119
more of them i made a list of my

1266
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:49,280
favorites from my childhood

1267
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:52,640
there's saint bernadette there is the

1268
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,960
uh you know the appearance of the

1269
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:55,839
blessed mary

1270
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:58,880
at fatima uh there's

1271
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:00,880
an incredible amount of material on st

1272
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:03,119
joan of arc

1273
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:04,720
there's a lot of catholic mysteries and

1274
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:07,680
i think that in the paranormal world

1275
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:10,160
um some of the christian and catholic

1276
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:12,079
mysteries just get ignored

1277
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:16,640
as not uh not relevant right to

1278
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:19,359
the the discussion which doesn't make

1279
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:21,040
sense to me if we're all

1280
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:22,720
interested in paranormal events and

1281
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,559
paranormal topics

1282
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:26,400
these are some pretty paranormal events

1283
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:27,760
and topics right

1284
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:32,000
and i'm not sure if we'll continue uh

1285
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:35,440
carol utley asks which stigmata case do

1286
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,160
you believe

1287
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:38,720
i'm not sure i believe any of them i

1288
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,280
mean

1289
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:41,599
i don't know how to explain wounds just

1290
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:42,640
appearing

1291
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:49,440
i don't want to speculate about padre

1292
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:50,000
pio

1293
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:58,470
could somebody just cut themselves a lot

1294
01:00:01,750 --> 01:00:00,319
frequently to create those kind of

1295
01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:01,760
wounds on their body

1296
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:02,960
could those wounds have been

1297
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:05,119
self-inflicted to gain attention

1298
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:06,720
notoriety

1299
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:10,240
or profit from them somehow

1300
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:13,760
sure i suppose they've never submitted

1301
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:14,240
any

1302
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,160
stigma to person to scientific study so

1303
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,400
you know i think that a qualified

1304
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,839
medical professional would be able to

1305
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:23,599
look at those wounds and tell

1306
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:24,960
with some degree of certainty if they

1307
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:26,640
were self-inflicted or if there's some

1308
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:27,440
other

1309
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:30,960
causal factor that caused them um

1310
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:33,040
the stigma is just a mystery to me carol

1311
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:35,040
utley i'd i'd love to believe

1312
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:37,119
that christ gives people with that but

1313
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:39,200
what kind of gift is that right

1314
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:41,040
maybe he wants people to suffer like he

1315
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:42,559
did so that they would know his

1316
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:43,760
suffering

1317
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:46,799
uh on the cross it's not

1318
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:49,440
uh it's generally anybody that has the

1319
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,359
stigmata it's supposed to be

1320
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:53,760
incredibly painful these wounds will

1321
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:55,520
open they'll bleed they'll

1322
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,119
be painful um it's a strange strange

1323
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:03,670
william pixley nor sure to anyone those

1324
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:05,280
that prey on kids should be locked away

1325
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:06,079
forever

1326
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:08,319
yeah i'm for the death penalty

1327
01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:09,359
especially if

1328
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:12,079
multiple victims i'm for the death

1329
01:01:18,309 --> 01:01:14,079
penalty for those people

1330
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,319
they don't stop uh they can go to jail

1331
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:20,079
there's there's there's a lot of

1332
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:22,000
supportive evidence that some pedophiles

1333
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:23,680
go to jail for 10 years and as soon as

1334
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:25,200
they get out they're trying to reoffend

1335
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:25,680
again

1336
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:29,119
they do not they're very difficult to

1337
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:36,470
steven ronan i here heard the catholic

1338
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:37,680
mask his is

1339
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:40,480
mass is half pagan you may be right i

1340
01:01:44,309 --> 01:01:41,440
think that the

1341
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:44,319
uh the practice of the wine and the

1342
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:44,799
bread

1343
01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:47,040
is an egyptian actually there's an

1344
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:48,079
egyptian right

1345
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:51,359
where you will drink wine and take bread

1346
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:54,319
uh which a lot of people think that the

1347
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:56,400
catholic mass where you drink

1348
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:59,119
the the wine which is supposed to be the

1349
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,079
blood of christ

1350
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:02,799
and uh eat the bread which is supposed

1351
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:04,640
to be the body of christ was actually

1352
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:05,520
based on this

1353
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:08,799
egyptian egyptian pre-existing egyptian

1354
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:10,000
ritual

1355
01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:13,280
this

1356
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:19,599
or you know various

1357
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:22,319
sort of pre-christian religions had a

1358
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:24,000
right where you would drink wine

1359
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,680
and take a piece of bread in some

1360
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:27,359
symbolic

1361
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:29,119
i don't know what that you know each

1362
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:30,720
religion or

1363
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:33,280
each ritual gives a different

1364
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:34,079
explanation

1365
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:36,000
about what what that's supposed to

1366
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,160
signify to catholics you're taking

1367
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:40,079
into yourself the body and blood of

1368
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:42,480
christ and you do that every week

1369
01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:45,440
um and you know it's interesting you're

1370
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:47,440
not supposed to go

1371
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:50,079
and take the the communion if you have

1372
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:51,039
any sins

1373
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:54,480
so you know confession on saturday

1374
01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:57,839
uh mass on sunday basically is how

1375
01:03:00,870 --> 01:02:59,119
how it goes you've got to go to

1376
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:00,880
confession first before you can get the

1377
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:02,880
communion you have to be free of sin

1378
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:04,559
you're supposed to be free of sin when

1379
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:06,079
you take the communion

1380
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,119
and it's considered uh it's

1381
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:10,880
i guess it's considered a sin to take

1382
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:13,520
the body of and blood of christ

1383
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:16,000
into yourself if you have sin in you at

1384
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:17,839
the time that you do it does that make

1385
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:18,240
sense

1386
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:19,760
i hope i'm explaining this right i

1387
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:22,640
haven't been uh i haven't thought about

1388
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:25,599
catholic masses and rituals for some

1389
01:03:29,029 --> 01:03:26,799
time

1390
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:29,039
yeah carol utley i like the movie

1391
01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:30,000
stigmata i

1392
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:31,599
love that movie i highly recommend it's

1393
01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:33,680
a great movie it's a great movie in it

1394
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:34,079
and it's

1395
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:36,400
it's a fictionalized version of someone

1396
01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:38,000
that has the stigmata but it's just

1397
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:39,520
it's still a great movie and in this

1398
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:45,839
case it's a woman that gets it

1399
01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:48,720
dominic says i prefer david wilcox

1400
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:50,720
stories to catholic stories well

1401
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:54,160
yeah i yeah i get that i get that

1402
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:56,160
you know my biggest thing though is that

1403
01:04:00,870 --> 01:03:58,559
i i know there are literally

1404
01:04:02,470 --> 01:04:00,880
channels youtube channels dedicated

1405
01:04:05,589 --> 01:04:02,480
solely to

1406
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:05,599
just ripping apart dave wilcock or corey

1407
01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:05,920
good

1408
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,119
or whoever and i don't i'd like to

1409
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:11,760
have a broader brush i'd like to have a

1410
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,559
bigger net

1411
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:14,319
you know and do stories about all

1412
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:16,240
different paranormal and mysterious

1413
01:04:19,829 --> 01:04:17,359
topics not just

1414
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:19,839
those guys but i get it and you know i

1415
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:21,760
see the numbers i know when i do one of

1416
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:22,880
those shows it's like

1417
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:24,960
fan service and everybody goes wow let's

1418
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:26,720
watch this one you know the numbers

1419
01:04:30,309 --> 01:04:28,000
spike up

1420
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,319
i also notice that when i'm angry you

1421
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:31,920
know if i'm spitting venom

1422
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:34,400
for a while in a show that one gets

1423
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:36,000
better numbers so apparently people like

1424
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:38,480
me to be angry and losing my [\h__\h]

1425
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,839
good to know

1426
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:43,440
it's just a design if there's truly a

1427
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:45,440
spirit realm it's very well hidden so

1428
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:53,750
you're probably right six's design ellen

1429
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:55,920
fox welcome ellen fox shout out to ellen

1430
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:58,000
fox young man from utah came to a small

1431
01:05:01,829 --> 01:04:59,839
farming community of freedom

1432
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:01,839
wisconsin where i grew up and he had

1433
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:03,599
bleeding palms i didn't get to see it

1434
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:05,520
though he passed away in his 30s well

1435
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,039
that's interesting

1436
01:05:13,270 --> 01:05:11,200
catholic churches are specifically on

1437
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:13,280
many pagan sites they just built over

1438
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,760
established pagan altars and that is

1439
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:17,119
very common practice

1440
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:20,079
we see muslims will build a mosque over

1441
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:21,119
existing church

1442
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:24,640
or existing uh synagogues

1443
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:27,839
all the time the the new religion

1444
01:05:31,029 --> 01:05:30,079
builds right on top of the old religion

1445
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,039
uh that is

1446
01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:33,119
a historical fact and it happens many

1447
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:36,480
many times

1448
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:38,799
carol utley says she has seen it 10 or

1449
01:05:41,190 --> 01:05:39,839
more times

1450
01:05:43,510 --> 01:05:41,200
yes we're talking about the movie

1451
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:43,520
stigmata i recommend that i like that

1452
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:44,000
movie

1453
01:05:47,829 --> 01:05:45,680
in fact i'm going to see if i can get

1454
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:47,839
that or watch it again i haven't seen it

1455
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,880
in some time

1456
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:50,880
vanessa thor says she loves that movie

1457
01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:52,079
so there you go you got three

1458
01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:53,119
recommendations

1459
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:01,190
okay

1460
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:03,270
vanessa thor says none of wilcox stories

1461
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:05,039
or his own stories he picks the best

1462
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:06,240
from all religions

1463
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:13,349
planet lupus says but this oh but this

1464
01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:16,400
is interesting too

1465
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:18,240
and let's see professor fez one of his

1466
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:19,760
nurses allegedly had

1467
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:23,039
a receipt for carbolic acid

1468
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,200
what is the significance of professor

1469
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,680
fez of carbolic acid do you think he was

1470
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:29,359
creating the

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01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:32,160
stigmata with some sort of acid bonus on

1472
01:06:34,630 --> 01:06:32,640
his

1473
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:34,640
you know was it self-inflicted was he

1474
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,400
using some kind of acid was that the

1475
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:38,079
implications that he

1476
01:06:45,589 --> 01:06:41,359
somehow created these um

1477
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:45,599
created these stigmata wounds on his own

1478
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:48,720
carol utley the vatican sits on pagan

1479
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,559
grounds you are absolutely right about

1480
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:52,319
that

1481
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:54,960
stephen ronan wilcock bores me yeah i

1482
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:56,160
don't know i can't sit through him

1483
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:58,000
anymore it's just ridiculous to listen

1484
01:07:00,630 --> 01:06:58,640
to him

1485
01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,640
lie through his fake [\h__\h] teeth there

1486
01:07:03,910 --> 01:07:02,240
i said it people love it when i say it

1487
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:03,920
david wilcock all david

1488
01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:07,039
wilcock does in every video

1489
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:08,640
and every appearance in every

1490
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:10,240
documentary it's

1491
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:12,799
mockumentary really they're a joke he

1492
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:14,000
just lies through his fake

1493
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:15,920
[\h__\h] teeth and i don't want to sit

1494
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,920
through that much anymore than i have to

1495
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:19,839
to report on the ridiculousness

1496
01:07:26,829 --> 01:07:24,000
of him sixth design wilcock is about as

1497
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:26,839
original as the mona lisa drawn with

1498
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:28,720
crayons

1499
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:31,280
yes dominic david wilcock was just an

1500
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:31,839
example

1501
01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:34,160
okay so yeah we'll see we're going to be

1502
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:37,839
doing future shows about david wilcock

1503
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:40,240
there are intact pagan spaces under the

1504
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:40,960
vatican

1505
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:43,039
that would not surprise me would not

1506
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:45,839
surprise me at all

1507
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:49,280
uh one second friends i have to

1508
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,760
check into my paypal here and take care

1509
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:53,520
of some business because i think that we

1510
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:54,559
got

1511
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:57,680
a donation uh between last night's show

1512
01:08:02,789 --> 01:07:58,960
and this night

1513
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:02,799
show for those that would like to

1514
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:04,240
support me

1515
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:07,520
you can do so by clicking the about on

1516
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,640
our channel here there is a there is a

1517
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:12,880
donate button you can donate by paypal

1518
01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:15,280
or donate by patreon for as little as a

1519
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,719
dollar a month we have a whole lot of

1520
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:18,799
benefits i just gave out a free

1521
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:21,920
demo of mind hack the mindtap system and

1522
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:24,000
we did an audio journal for patreon

1523
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:26,159
supporters only this month you get sort

1524
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,279
of a backstage

1525
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,000
pass if you're a patreon supporter as

1526
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,400
far as the paypal donations we have

1527
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:34,319
she's not here tonight she's busy with

1528
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:35,759
family but

1529
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:39,839
kell truth uh sent a kind and generous

1530
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:43,120
ten dollar donation and she says hey

1531
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:43,679
stephen

1532
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:45,679
appreciate all your hard work to help

1533
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:47,759
bring us the truth much appreciated

1534
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:48,640
thanks kel

1535
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,359
well thank you kel truth for your kind

1536
01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:53,040
and generous donation it means a lot to

1537
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:54,719
me that people are supporting the show

1538
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:56,719
and helping to keep us

1539
01:09:04,630 --> 01:08:59,759
going forward doing more shows

1540
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:04,640
um my sincere gratitude to cultures

1541
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:06,880
and i will uh shout it out again when

1542
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:08,480
she's here because she kind of missed

1543
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:10,000
her shout out and

1544
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:13,199
and missed me thanking her uh means a

1545
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:14,880
lot to me i appreciate it and i will be

1546
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:16,880
sending you off your free gifts you're

1547
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:18,640
getting some mood rings and probably a

1548
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,000
rosary right

1549
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:22,159
uh as a gift from me for your kind and

1550
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:24,400
generous donations

1551
01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:26,560
six is design helping out sharing the

1552
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:27,600
links in the about

1553
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,709
six design asks have you done knight's

1554
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:36,640
templar stuff before no but i find this

1555
01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:38,000
subject incredible we haven't done a

1556
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:39,679
show on the knights templar we haven't

1557
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:40,799
done a show on

1558
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:42,640
any of that and i find it extremely

1559
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:44,560
fascinating topic

1560
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:47,679
uh it's it's just amazing to me and the

1561
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:48,880
way that they hide

1562
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:51,600
things in plain sight in geometry and

1563
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:53,679
sacred geometry and the shrines that

1564
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,480
they've built

1565
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:56,719
and the hiding places and it's

1566
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:58,800
fascinating that they may have the holy

1567
01:10:01,830 --> 01:09:59,520
grail

1568
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,840
or the ark of the covenant hidden

1569
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:03,040
somewhere

1570
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:04,960
i love the knights templar stuff and i

1571
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,239
want to uh yeah we'll

1572
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,080
we'll do a show on the knights templar

1573
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:10,000
maybe we'll get into a deep dive on some

1574
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:11,520
of those subjects because it's really

1575
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:17,910
oh professor fez great great

1576
01:10:21,430 --> 01:10:19,760
contribution professor fez the

1577
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:21,440
allegation was that he was faking the

1578
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:22,880
wounds with acid

1579
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,760
it could have been used uh to sterilize

1580
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:26,880
equipment though

1581
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:29,679
yeah i've heard uh i tried to ask the

1582
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,159
priest that i talked to about this case

1583
01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:34,400
uh but he didn't want to go there he

1584
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:36,159
said no they came from god

1585
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:38,080
uh i said well couldn't they have been

1586
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:39,520
self-inflicted and he said i can't

1587
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,199
speculate they came from god

1588
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:43,440
we know they came from god because pope

1589
01:10:50,149 --> 01:10:44,880
john paul ii

1590
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:52,470
i think a topic that these guys reuse

1591
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,480
periodically is the mass arrest topic

1592
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,400
david wilcock used it a few years back

1593
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:00,159
and now making its way back

1594
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:02,080
dominic i'm not sure that i've seen you

1595
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:03,679
here before and if you are new

1596
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:05,600
welcome to our little spot on the

1597
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:07,440
internet we are a cool group trying to

1598
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:08,880
get to the truth behind some of these

1599
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:10,480
mysterious subjects

1600
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:12,000
here's what i can tell you about david

1601
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:14,320
wilcock and his claims that mass arrests

1602
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:15,920
are coming any minute now

1603
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:18,159
he's been making those claims he first

1604
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:21,600
made those claims in 1998

1605
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:24,640
that's right since 1998 and you're right

1606
01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:26,800
every few years he pulls that back out

1607
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:29,679
you know i swear that david wilcock has

1608
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,679
flash cards right and the flash cards

1609
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:33,600
just say stuff like men in black

1610
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:37,920
cabal mass arrests secret tribunals

1611
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:40,000
and he just shuffles that deck of [\h__\h]

1612
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:41,199
cards right

1613
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:43,360
and then it makes it easier for him to

1614
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:45,360
lie through his fake [\h__\h] teeth

1615
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,199
if he can just put some cards down on

1616
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:49,040
the table he'll hope those are his

1617
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,880
talking points okay i'll talk about

1618
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:52,640
mass arrests for a while then i'll talk

1619
01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:54,960
about the cabal i'll talk about elite

1620
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:58,480
pedophile rings and the illuminati

1621
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:01,280
he just makes [\h__\h] up he just makes [\h__\h]

1622
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:02,880
up he's sitting in a million dollar

1623
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:03,440
house

1624
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:06,560
making up fake stories and breaking in

1625
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:08,320
the cash

1626
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,790
william pixley says it's possible the

1627
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:16,320
knights templar found the ark of the

1628
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:16,880
covenant

1629
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:19,199
yeah and i also wanted to do a story on

1630
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:20,880
the ark of the covenant ending up

1631
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:24,800
in in africa right there is uh

1632
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:28,159
there is a tribe of

1633
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:30,640
africans that claim that the ark of the

1634
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:32,400
covenant ended up there

1635
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:34,239
and that they have been guarding it for

1636
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,000
centuries but only the high priest

1637
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:38,640
from that order is allowed to go in and

1638
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:40,000
see

1639
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:46,719
no one else outside of the that specific

1640
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:47,760
person in the

1641
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,360
in the i guess clergy there

1642
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:54,000
has ever actually seen it so but it's a

1643
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:54,960
great story

1644
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:57,760
uh i don't know if it's there but they

1645
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,159
told

1646
01:13:01,350 --> 01:13:00,159
some great stories about if you go in

1647
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,360
there and you're not

1648
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:03,120
the high priest that's supposed to take

1649
01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:04,480
care of it if you go in there and you

1650
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:06,159
look at it you die

1651
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:09,679
or you fall violently ill and

1652
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:13,199
that's just a crazy crazy crazy part of

1653
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:15,600
the story

1654
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:17,440
wilcock is overdue for another death

1655
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,600
threat any day now we will get another

1656
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:21,120
public meltdown

1657
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,440
yeah i think that uh i i think that

1658
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:28,080
he is [\h__\h] i think he's [\h__\h] because

1659
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,040
uh

1660
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:31,280
there is ample and supportive proof that

1661
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:33,840
he has participated now in two different

1662
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:34,719
fundraising

1663
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:36,800
i'm gonna call them scams they were

1664
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:38,320
scams

1665
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:41,280
made up [\h__\h] or told completely and

1666
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,840
totally

1667
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:43,679
false narrative and then begged for

1668
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:45,440
donations and then we find out that

1669
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:46,640
everything that he was saying when he

1670
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:48,400
was begging for those donations is a

1671
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:50,000
complete and total fabrication and

1672
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:51,360
falsehood

1673
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:53,040
and this happened both in the case of

1674
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,360
pete peterson everything in the gofundme

1675
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,280
body of text we've proven

1676
01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:59,280
line by line was a complete total

1677
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:01,920
fabrication none of that happened

1678
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:04,640
and then we move on to the emery smith

1679
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:05,679
paypal con

1680
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:08,560
which was the cabal's trying to kill him

1681
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:10,560
the cabal stole his dog

1682
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:14,080
the cabal killed his dog uh

1683
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:16,960
yeah it was all fake none of that [\h__\h]

1684
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:18,159
happened

1685
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,000
so uh there's twice now at least twice

1686
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:24,080
that david wilcock has been involved in

1687
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,719
these fundraising scams

1688
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:28,560
i don't know how a spiritual guru is

1689
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:30,480
involved in so many

1690
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:33,760
fake fundraising scams but it's

1691
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:35,679
it's david wilcock and interestingly

1692
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:42,950
a few months apart right i think

1693
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:44,880
looking at the timeline i could be wrong

1694
01:14:48,790 --> 01:14:46,480
i gotta look at it again but

1695
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:48,800
i remember thinking that maybe when he

1696
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,880
did the gofundme for pete peterson and

1697
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:52,560
saw all that money coming in

1698
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:54,480
then he decided to do another one with

1699
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:57,360
emery smith this is opinion in sp

1700
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,440
and speculation but look at the dates of

1701
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:01,440
the pete peterson gofundme scam

1702
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:04,480
and look at the blog post date

1703
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:06,560
where he's the first day where he's

1704
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:08,560
begging for money

1705
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:12,400
for the emery smith survival fund right

1706
01:15:15,669 --> 01:15:14,159
the only thing that guy needs to survive

1707
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:15,679
is his alcoholism and

1708
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:19,440
again here is another part to the story

1709
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:22,000
i don't want i want to make sure that

1710
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:24,320
people understand that i have tremendous

1711
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:27,440
uh empathy for anybody with alcohol

1712
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,880
issues my mother was an alcoholic so

1713
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,560
i have tremendous empathy for people

1714
01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:34,400
with that problem i took care of my

1715
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:36,320
mother for more than 20 years after the

1716
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:37,360
death of my father

1717
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:42,159
inconsolable

1718
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:45,360
all she did was drink and uh

1719
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:49,360
you know it's hell it's hell living with

1720
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,480
that sort of addiction

1721
01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:52,800
it's hell uh trying to take care of

1722
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:54,719
someone with that sort of addiction so i

1723
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:55,520
have empathy

1724
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:58,480
as well for his girlfriend who he might

1725
01:16:02,870 --> 01:15:59,840
have been abusing or

1726
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:02,880
allegedly was abusing i don't know

1727
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:06,080
i my wish for him is that he finds a

1728
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:06,640
meeting

1729
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,000
right then he tries a a or some other

1730
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:12,080
inpatient maybe he needs to go to a

1731
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:13,840
detox a rehab

1732
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,199
and get clean and i find it deplorable

1733
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:19,840
that people at gaia had to know you'd

1734
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:22,080
listen you don't employ somebody that's

1735
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:24,560
that much of an alcoholic and not know

1736
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:32,790
so we have gaia conference organizers

1737
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:36,719
radio show hosts podcast

1738
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:40,800
hosts whatever video show hosts all

1739
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:43,520
using this poor person that has severe

1740
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:44,480
alcohol issues

1741
01:16:47,830 --> 01:16:46,480
knowing that he has severe alcohol

1742
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:47,840
issues maybe they all didn't know but

1743
01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:50,159
i'm sure some of them did

1744
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:53,679
and instead of getting him aside and

1745
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:54,960
trying to get him help

1746
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:56,800
they just sought to profit from him and

1747
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:58,239
his crazy fake stories

1748
01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:00,800
and by the way there's two sides to

1749
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:02,320
every story i

1750
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:05,199
today started watching some videos which

1751
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:07,199
featured both emery smith and his

1752
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:07,840
girlfriend

1753
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:10,880
olivia whose father

1754
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:13,920
is now you know

1755
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,320
sort of whistle on on emery smith

1756
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:20,800
and telling the truth behind uh

1757
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,640
allegedly telling the truth

1758
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:24,159
i believe he's telling the truth about

1759
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:25,679
some of these events

1760
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:28,560
but i think she's just as guilty you

1761
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:29,199
know there's

1762
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:31,199
there's that story is not over yet and

1763
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,040
we have to do a part two

1764
01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:35,280
uh because in fairness she's sitting

1765
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:36,960
right next to him helping him sell the

1766
01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:37,520
con

1767
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:40,880
have a falling out

1768
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:45,120
now he's a fraud uh was she a fraud for

1769
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:46,880
participating with him

1770
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:49,280
where was this father when they were out

1771
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:50,080
grifting

1772
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:52,719
if he knew that that was all fake why

1773
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,280
didn't

1774
01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:56,000
he come out and inform the public that

1775
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:57,920
emery smith was defrauding the public

1776
01:18:03,270 --> 01:17:59,920
for fake stories

1777
01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:03,280
before his you know they break up and

1778
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:06,080
suddenly emery smith is a bad guy now

1779
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:07,440
but the whole time that they were

1780
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:09,760
together the guy's daughter

1781
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:12,640
was helping emery run his businesses and

1782
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:13,600
sell the con

1783
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:15,360
stories that he was telling at

1784
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,400
conferences and on gaia tv

1785
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:20,320
there's more to the story and we're

1786
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:22,640
going to keep looking into it

1787
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,640
it also appears to me that this

1788
01:18:30,310 --> 01:18:26,880
gentleman uh

1789
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:30,320
you know his once father-in-law i'm

1790
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,920
gonna call him that for lack of a better

1791
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:33,360
term

1792
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:35,440
is sort of retreading a lot of things

1793
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:37,040
that people have already done now he's

1794
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:39,040
like oh i'm gonna show uh

1795
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:42,159
i'm gonna show david wilcox 990

1796
01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:44,960
okay we did that a year ago or something

1797
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:47,120
you know uh

1798
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:49,600
or maybe not maybe not that long ago but

1799
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:50,560
still

1800
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:53,199
you know he's sort of retreading things

1801
01:18:55,990 --> 01:18:54,080
that people have already

1802
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:56,000
done and sort of claiming credit like

1803
01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:57,679
he's going to bring down all these

1804
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:59,120
frauds and fakers

1805
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:01,520
and part of me is like where were you

1806
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:02,560
three years ago

1807
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:03,760
you know there were there's people have

1808
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:06,239
been doing this even longer than me

1809
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:08,000
out here exposing the frauds and the

1810
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:10,080
cons but suddenly

1811
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:13,199
you're gonna be the hero now okay you

1812
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:13,760
know

1813
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:16,719
uh but we can agree to disagree he seems

1814
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:18,560
like his heart's in the right place

1815
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:21,600
i can tell that he's you know and people

1816
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:22,000
are saying

1817
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,760
he's running they're running sort of a

1818
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:25,360
campaign trying to spread this

1819
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:27,360
information and take emery down

1820
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:30,480
and this this is the internet folks

1821
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:34,239
it's troll wars sometimes you know let's

1822
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:36,480
this guy wants to spread his information

1823
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:38,159
and and he wants people to know that

1824
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:39,040
emery's a con

1825
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:42,239
artist um it's a little suspect to me

1826
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:43,840
that he didn't want people to know that

1827
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:47,120
emery smith was a con artist when his

1828
01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:49,280
daughter and emery smith were working

1829
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:50,800
the con together

1830
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,520
but okay you know so like i said there's

1831
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:55,840
two sides to that story

1832
01:20:05,030 --> 01:19:59,120
and we're going to we're going to dig

1833
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:05,040
into it a little further

1834
01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:07,199
okay friends sorry i'm getting caught up

1835
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:09,280
in that

1836
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:12,080
i really think emery has a one-time huge

1837
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:13,120
opportunity to

1838
01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:15,199
clean out all the cons and change the

1839
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:17,360
game forever if he is brave

1840
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:20,000
uh i don't that's never gonna happen

1841
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:21,679
you're gonna he's gonna have to go

1842
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,600
he's gonna have to admit that all of the

1843
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:25,199
stuff that he talked about for the last

1844
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:26,960
few years was all fake

1845
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:30,239
do i see him doing that no he likes the

1846
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:31,360
spotlight

1847
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:34,960
and here's the sense

1848
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:36,560
here's the sense that i get from emery

1849
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:38,719
smith i get that he

1850
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:42,080
it's just my sort of read on him is that

1851
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:45,600
he was a completely un

1852
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:48,880
remarkable person right

1853
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:51,040
he was sort of the invisible nerd in the

1854
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,239
room that nobody paid attention to

1855
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:56,000
and suddenly he's telling these fake

1856
01:20:59,590 --> 01:20:57,679
stories and he's

1857
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,600
he's the center of attention he's

1858
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:01,679
celebrated he's worshiped

1859
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,560
and i think he likes that and so uh i

1860
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:06,159
don't think that he's gonna change his

1861
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:06,800
tune

1862
01:21:10,629 --> 01:21:10,080
i don't think there'll be any i'm

1863
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,639
hopeful

1864
01:21:14,629 --> 01:21:12,480
still i believe that there's a road to

1865
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:14,639
redemption for every man

1866
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:16,400
but do i think that emery smith is going

1867
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:18,000
to take it no

1868
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:19,920
i really don't think so i think that

1869
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:22,639
he's gotten used to

1870
01:21:28,790 --> 01:21:25,360
free money for telling fake stories and

1871
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,800
the stream that i listen to today

1872
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:30,080
here's what i'll say about the stream

1873
01:21:32,950 --> 01:21:31,840
that i listened to two hours of henry

1874
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:32,960
smith and his

1875
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:35,520
then girlfriend olivia who was sort of

1876
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:36,639
interviewing him

1877
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:38,960
and basically became like the handler

1878
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,719
like the job that david wilcock would do

1879
01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:42,400
like ask these questions

1880
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:44,400
and guide the conversation here's what

1881
01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:46,480
we're going to talk about

1882
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:52,629
i just i can't there's there's half

1883
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:53,679
alien robot

1884
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:56,000
dogs with electronics in them that we

1885
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:57,840
take through portals

1886
01:22:02,550 --> 01:22:00,960
and uh into oh i don't even know where i

1887
01:22:05,350 --> 01:22:02,560
was going it could have been the inner

1888
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:05,360
earth it could have been other planets

1889
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:08,239
okay uh and then the inner earth stuff

1890
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:08,880
was uh

1891
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:11,679
yeah just like corey good's [\h__\h] and

1892
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:13,360
char stories

1893
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:16,560
uh but

1894
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:18,320
he also made a claim that it found very

1895
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:19,600
interesting in that

1896
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:22,840
he said when he would do ob gyn

1897
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:25,920
surgeries when he was in the military uh

1898
01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:27,840
emery smith you weren't a surgeon you

1899
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:29,840
were like a surgical technician

1900
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:31,840
that's basically the guy that stands

1901
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:34,080
next to the real surgeon and hands them

1902
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:36,560
like the scalpel

1903
01:22:40,709 --> 01:22:39,280
and sets up the patient you know uh

1904
01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:40,719
maybe

1905
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:42,719
you know cleans the area they're gonna

1906
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:44,320
cut into before the

1907
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,840
surgeon gets there that's what a

1908
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:48,159
surgical tech does a surgical tech does

1909
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:49,440
not

1910
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,159
claimed in this video i watched i just

1911
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:58,320
the amount of bullshittery coming out of

1912
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,280
that guy's mouth

1913
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:01,360
i've never honestly i've never i

1914
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,040
listened to like once

1915
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:05,760
i listened to a while ago david wilcock

1916
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:06,800
interviewing him

1917
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:08,960
and as soon as i heard that he had

1918
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,320
claimed that he you know

1919
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:12,880
autopsy all these alien bodies i just

1920
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:13,360
left

1921
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:16,560
i just i i turned off and i didn't

1922
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:18,480
follow what he was talking about for

1923
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:20,480
years until recently now

1924
01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:23,920
but now having sampled it i'm i'm glad

1925
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:26,159
that i missed out on that whole train of

1926
01:23:30,070 --> 01:23:27,600
bullshitter rate because there's no

1927
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:30,080
value in anything that henry smith talks

1928
01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:30,480
about

1929
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:32,960
there's no value in any of it there's no

1930
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:34,080
proof oh and by the way

1931
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:36,960
he's also in that two-hour video

1932
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:39,040
claiming to have invented

1933
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:46,229
where's it at henry smith claiming to

1934
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:48,400
also have invented these light

1935
01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:51,280
therapy devices that can cure cancer he

1936
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:51,920
said that

1937
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,840
these devices we've proven they can cure

1938
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:55,760
cancer

1939
01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:58,159
all right so henry smith you cured

1940
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,070
emery smith you cured cancer this is

1941
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:06,320
kind of like you were an astronaut too

1942
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,560
right you were an astronaut and you

1943
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:10,480
cured cancer

1944
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,669
uh

1945
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:23,030
so many great stories so many drugs yeah

1946
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:23,360
and

1947
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,360
uh listen this father-in-law reported

1948
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:27,360
that he was selling psilocybin

1949
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:30,560
and he had previously been arrested

1950
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:33,440
or somebody was arrested i'm not sure if

1951
01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:35,280
it was him i think it was him arrested

1952
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:37,360
in his range rover with mushrooms in the

1953
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:38,719
in the vehicle

1954
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:42,400
so uh psychedelic drugs

1955
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:44,400
could be the source of a lot of these

1956
01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:46,560
fantastical stories of course

1957
01:24:52,149 --> 01:24:49,760
i hear that there is a big you know

1958
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:52,159
that's very common with these people but

1959
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:53,520
everybody's doing mushrooms and

1960
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,239
psilocybin and smoking dmt

1961
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:58,320
so you too yeah i'm gonna listen if i

1962
01:25:02,550 --> 01:24:59,520
smoke some dmt

1963
01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:02,560
i'm gonna see an alien too um but

1964
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:04,320
i'm not gonna try to make a career out

1965
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,239
of a drug induced

1966
01:25:10,390 --> 01:25:08,719
you know hallucinogenic fantasy and

1967
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:10,400
these people do

1968
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,520
it's crazy emory has been living a

1969
01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:15,920
destructive life for years whether it's

1970
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:18,159
lying being a con or a drunk he is a

1971
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:19,040
grown ass

1972
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:25,990
the story about the sentient crystalline

1973
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:27,679
ufo the autopsy

1974
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:30,639
live gold oh i got to hear that you've

1975
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:32,400
got to send me a link and here's another

1976
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:33,040
one

1977
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:35,760
these guys all use other people's stuff

1978
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:37,600
in this two-hour stream

1979
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:40,960
um emery smith mentioned a

1980
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:44,000
jello mold ufo

1981
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:45,440
but it was made out of sort of

1982
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,400
gelatinous material and so was the alien

1983
01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:50,960
inside it and they had the same dna

1984
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,080
but jello mold flying saucer that

1985
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,400
came directly from bob lazar's story

1986
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,320
balazar describes some of the

1987
01:26:02,070 --> 01:26:00,560
ufos in the hangar he called one the

1988
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:02,080
jello mold because it looked like an

1989
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:03,679
upside down jello mold

1990
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:06,080
and here we have the exact same term

1991
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:08,080
that i've never used another human

1992
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:09,600
i've never heard another human being on

1993
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,360
earth use the term

1994
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:14,320
jell-o mold ufo or jell-o mold flying

1995
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:16,639
saucer other than bob lazar and suddenly

1996
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:18,159
here's henry smith using the

1997
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:20,880
nearly exact term these guys just rip

1998
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:22,719
each other off they mine each other for

1999
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:23,760
[\h__\h]

2000
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:38,149
dominic if these cons can get sued or go

2001
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:39,840
to jail for taking money in exchange for

2002
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:41,199
their [\h__\h] wouldn't traditional

2003
01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:42,800
psychics tarot etc

2004
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:45,679
all be in jail yeah and a lot of the

2005
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:47,520
traditional psychics and tarot

2006
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:49,840
readers put the disclaimer for

2007
01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:51,679
entertainment purposes only

2008
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:53,679
the problem is that these clowns don't

2009
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,960
do that yet

2010
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:56,480
but i have a feeling that they're going

2011
01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:59,280
to be doing exactly that soon

2012
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:01,199
they're there the heat is on them

2013
01:27:05,669 --> 01:27:02,880
legally they know

2014
01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:05,679
like but i don't think that you can lie

2015
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:07,199
in a gofundme scam

2016
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,719
and say this is for entertainment

2017
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,639
purposes only still send me your money

2018
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:12,080
for this fake story or

2019
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:15,440
in a paypal donation scam i don't think

2020
01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:17,600
that you can take people's money

2021
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:20,239
and just say for entertainment purposes

2022
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:24,790
i think that for entertainment only

2023
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:26,239
idiots uh

2024
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,679
yeah they should be they should be

2025
01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:29,600
forced to label their [\h__\h] as for

2026
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:31,280
entertainment purposes only

2027
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:32,880
they shouldn't be allowed to walk around

2028
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:34,639
saying this is a true story

2029
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:44,070
i didn't i didn't catch that i don't i

2030
01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:46,719
don't know much about uh hallucinogens

2031
01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:48,880
vanessa thor you can tell emory is micro

2032
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:50,960
dosing in half his presentations can you

2033
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:51,679
tell me how

2034
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,120
how do you tell if somebody's micro

2035
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:54,960
dosing and for those that don't know

2036
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:57,199
uh i'm aware at least that micro dosing

2037
01:28:01,910 --> 01:27:59,199
is taking a very small dose of a

2038
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:01,920
hallucinogenic drug

2039
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,320
and i know about i know a little bit

2040
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,400
about micro dosing because of my

2041
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:08,880
connection to the computer industry

2042
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:10,480
coders

2043
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:15,760
will

2044
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:16,960
especially when they're working on a

2045
01:28:22,229 --> 01:28:19,120
difficult problem they'll micro dose

2046
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:22,239
all day and write code for 12 hours in a

2047
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:22,960
shot

2048
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,159
while they're micro dosing and

2049
01:28:26,629 --> 01:28:25,920
apparently many of them feel like that

2050
01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:26,639
gives them an

2051
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:28,880
edge everybody in silicon valley is

2052
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:30,159
looking for any edge

2053
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,639
and a lot of them have turned to micro

2054
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:33,920
dosing

2055
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:37,040
as some some competitive

2056
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:42,960
advantage that they think they have

2057
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:51,590
yeah how can you tell

2058
01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:53,600
professor fez asks could he have shell

2059
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:56,239
shock i'm not aware if he was deployed

2060
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:58,560
in the in the military i don't know if

2061
01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:00,320
he saw combat

2062
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:02,400
um but that could certainly be a

2063
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:05,840
contributing factor to his problems

2064
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,960
um apparently jiggy

2065
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:11,280
who we recognize as an expert guest on

2066
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:12,239
all drugs

2067
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:14,480
paranormal jiggy is our resident drug

2068
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:16,719
expert especially cannabis expert

2069
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:19,040
and he says that ain't microdoses of

2070
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:35,110
uh yeah

2071
01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:36,550
brad graces but that would make them

2072
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:38,159
high steve do you mean the coders that i

2073
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:39,840
know they use it

2074
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:42,000
yeah i know other coders that smoke pot

2075
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:43,440
while they're writing code

2076
01:29:54,709 --> 01:29:48,239
um i i think that uh

2077
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:57,830
taking some form of drug to help with an

2078
01:30:01,750 --> 01:29:59,120
artistic endeavor

2079
01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:01,760
i'll leave it at that i i don't condone

2080
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:02,560
or condemn

2081
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,360
anyone who chooses to use drugs in the

2082
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:07,120
pursuit of an artistic

2083
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,960
endeavor or in this you know

2084
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:12,560
yeah in the pursuit of an artistic

2085
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:14,000
endeavor

2086
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:18,000
i know uh an incredible painter who

2087
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:20,239
would smoke so much pot while they were

2088
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:21,679
painting and then they quit

2089
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:24,000
one one day they just quit and and i

2090
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:25,440
actually think that their artwork

2091
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:26,239
improved

2092
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:28,880
after they quit smoking pot and painting

2093
01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:30,239
but

2094
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:34,080
just noticed the market difference

2095
01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:36,320
in his in their painting after they

2096
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:38,080
stopped smoking pot

2097
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:40,320
and there are other people uh who i know

2098
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:41,520
that are artists

2099
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:45,199
uh in regard to cannabis i know at least

2100
01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:47,760
two songwriters that will smoke a lot of

2101
01:30:50,149 --> 01:30:48,239
pot

2102
01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:50,159
and drink a lot while they're writing

2103
01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:51,440
and then

2104
01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:53,920
they both quit i know more than a few

2105
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:55,199
musicians that smoke pot

2106
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:57,679
drink while they're writing but you know

2107
01:31:00,310 --> 01:30:58,400
these two

2108
01:31:01,669 --> 01:31:00,320
people that i know quit and then their

2109
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:01,679
songwriting went to [\h__\h]

2110
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:05,199
when they try to write silver songs

2111
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,639
take from that what you will that's just

2112
01:31:09,830 --> 01:31:08,719
my personal opinion i think that some

2113
01:31:17,830 --> 01:31:09,840
people may need it

2114
01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:17,840
to get into that creative state

2115
01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:26,229
they were both arrested for ketamine

2116
01:31:30,149 --> 01:31:28,560
isn't ketamine like a horse tranquilizer

2117
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:30,159
i think it is right

2118
01:31:34,629 --> 01:31:32,480
special k it's a horse tranquilizer i

2119
01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:34,639
had a next-door neighbor who's

2120
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:36,880
uh their son was on that and he was

2121
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:37,679
[\h__\h]

2122
01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:40,480
up he used to get high and they thought

2123
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:41,120
he'd be

2124
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,120
they thought he was dead you know in his

2125
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:45,520
room because he was like unresponsive

2126
01:31:49,270 --> 01:31:47,440
for long periods of time but he was just

2127
01:31:51,189 --> 01:31:49,280
all doped up on

2128
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:51,199
what is essentially a tranquilizer i

2129
01:31:56,830 --> 01:31:52,800
suppose i don't know why anybody want to

2130
01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:58,310
okay

2131
01:32:02,070 --> 01:32:01,199
sexist design says tried shrooms they

2132
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:02,080
taste like [\h__\h]

2133
01:32:05,430 --> 01:32:03,520
but to take enough of them to

2134
01:32:06,390 --> 01:32:05,440
hallucinate i've had a few shroom

2135
01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:06,400
experiences

2136
01:32:12,229 --> 01:32:09,520
and i also have had us

2137
01:32:12,870 --> 01:32:12,239
a bunch of lsd experiences i much prefer

2138
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:12,880
shrooms

2139
01:32:17,830 --> 01:32:16,960
to uh i don't know lsd to me seemed to

2140
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:17,840
be too

2141
01:32:23,590 --> 01:32:21,040
uh too crazy too active too

2142
01:32:25,030 --> 01:32:23,600
too crazy it was like speeding and

2143
01:32:26,229 --> 01:32:25,040
seeing [\h__\h] at the same time the

2144
01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:26,239
shroom's as much

2145
01:32:29,430 --> 01:32:29,040
you're gonna see some things but it's a

2146
01:32:32,070 --> 01:32:29,440
much

2147
01:32:32,470 --> 01:32:32,080
calmer at least in my experience it was

2148
01:32:35,110 --> 01:32:32,480
a much

2149
01:32:35,590 --> 01:32:35,120
calmer sort of uh experience than lsd

2150
01:32:38,229 --> 01:32:35,600
was

2151
01:32:38,790 --> 01:32:38,239
i'll probably never take any of that

2152
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:38,800
stuff

2153
01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:40,560
ever again we'll never say never you

2154
01:32:44,229 --> 01:32:42,480
know i may but

2155
01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:44,239
i don't see that as being a possibility

2156
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:46,480
anytime in the near future

2157
01:32:51,990 --> 01:32:49,920
i did want to try salvia uh

2158
01:32:54,629 --> 01:32:52,000
but i think that it's illegal in a lot

2159
01:32:55,189 --> 01:32:54,639
of states now salvia i hear that's a

2160
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:55,199
pretty

2161
01:32:59,350 --> 01:32:57,920
interesting experience and it's it's

2162
01:33:00,629 --> 01:32:59,360
it's like you have the experience and

2163
01:33:03,110 --> 01:33:00,639
then it's over

2164
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:03,120
which is much preferred if you're uh you

2165
01:33:09,910 --> 01:33:04,080
know

2166
01:33:11,750 --> 01:33:09,920
as a parent you can't like drop acid and

2167
01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:11,760
trip for two days straight

2168
01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:14,719
like when you were you know a kid or you

2169
01:33:17,030 --> 01:33:15,600
know a

2170
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:17,040
young 20 something with no

2171
01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:19,199
responsibilities so i thought about

2172
01:33:28,550 --> 01:33:20,800
doing salvia but i haven't

2173
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:30,390
if that's the case i'm creative every

2174
01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:31,760
day

2175
01:33:41,830 --> 01:33:34,400
brad gray you get by with a little help

2176
01:33:45,510 --> 01:33:43,669
uh jonassen is here shout out to

2177
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:45,520
genocide he says i took shrooms one time

2178
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:47,600
and saw unknown but my roommate on

2179
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:48,560
shrooms 2

2180
01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:50,800
saw the same known that's a little

2181
01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:52,400
freaky

2182
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:55,120
maybe you guys uh opened the same portal

2183
01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:57,440
to another dimension or something

2184
01:34:01,510 --> 01:33:59,600
you never know with this stuff try lsd

2185
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:01,520
oh yeah it's vibrant it's only limit is

2186
01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:03,040
your imagination

2187
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:04,719
haven't done it in more than a decade

2188
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:06,239
though

2189
01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:09,760
yeah i uh my experience with

2190
01:34:13,669 --> 01:34:11,520
hallucinogens was that i

2191
01:34:16,709 --> 01:34:13,679
had one trip the first time which was

2192
01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:16,719
like an amazing life-altering i thought

2193
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:20,080
experience it was just amazing

2194
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:22,480
and i had it like uh i guess somebody

2195
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:23,679
that you would call a good

2196
01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:26,719
trip tour guide and he had like black

2197
01:34:32,149 --> 01:34:30,400
lights and he had music that was perfect

2198
01:34:35,350 --> 01:34:32,159
for the situation

2199
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:35,360
and he had us go out on his balcony when

2200
01:34:39,510 --> 01:34:37,120
the sun was coming up

2201
01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:39,520
later that night and we got you know

2202
01:34:45,109 --> 01:34:41,840
you're tripping balls and the

2203
01:34:46,310 --> 01:34:45,119
sun's coming up over the city and all

2204
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:46,320
the colors and the

2205
01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:49,679
orange and the red and the yellow and

2206
01:34:53,669 --> 01:34:52,080
the waves of heat coming up as the sun

2207
01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:53,679
came up i will never forget that

2208
01:34:57,910 --> 01:34:54,800
experience

2209
01:34:59,590 --> 01:34:57,920
but unfortunately i think the term is

2210
01:35:02,229 --> 01:34:59,600
chasing the dragon

2211
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:02,239
um every other experience that i had was

2212
01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:03,119
not

2213
01:35:09,430 --> 01:35:06,320
that good and i was always chasing

2214
01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:09,440
the amazing original experience and you

2215
01:35:11,990 --> 01:35:10,159
know

2216
01:35:14,229 --> 01:35:12,000
i didn't do very much experimenting with

2217
01:35:16,629 --> 01:35:14,239
that stuff not and i haven't for decades

2218
01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:18,390
when playing improv music with friends

2219
01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:20,239
we like to smoke marijuana or sometimes

2220
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:21,679
do another drug it's fun and we have a

2221
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:23,040
feeling that we're doing great but the

2222
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:24,880
recordings are mostly terrible yeah

2223
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:26,400
everything sounds great

2224
01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:28,400
until you play it back right and then

2225
01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,270
dominic says what i'd recommend for

2226
01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:37,440
things like lsd shrooms etc is to do

2227
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:38,800
them with a few people and people you

2228
01:35:41,830 --> 01:35:40,400
know well ideally in a cabin in the

2229
01:35:43,430 --> 01:35:41,840
woods or something like that as opposed

2230
01:35:45,109 --> 01:35:43,440
to a nightclub

2231
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:45,119
i happen to have a cabin in the woods

2232
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:46,800
dominic i don't know that you know that

2233
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,440
being new

2234
01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:48,960
i have a cabin in the mountains of

2235
01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:51,040
pennsylvania the pocono mountains

2236
01:35:54,629 --> 01:35:53,040
that i built myself and it's a great

2237
01:36:02,790 --> 01:35:54,639
place to go and

2238
01:36:06,070 --> 01:36:05,270
six designs and he does graphics and

2239
01:36:08,229 --> 01:36:06,080
he's an artist

2240
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:08,239
he says most of the best stuff i feel

2241
01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:09,440
has been done

2242
01:36:13,189 --> 01:36:12,000
smoked out of my mind planet lupa well

2243
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:13,199
there you go

2244
01:36:17,669 --> 01:36:15,679
oh professor fez you all need to go to

2245
01:36:19,430 --> 01:36:17,679
confession after this talk yeah only on

2246
01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:19,440
my show could we talk about a catholic

2247
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:20,080
saint

2248
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:22,159
promote for you know an hour of the show

2249
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:23,119
and then the last half

2250
01:36:29,030 --> 01:36:26,320
hour just talk about drugs

2251
01:36:29,350 --> 01:36:29,040
that is uh you know listen we go where

2252
01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:29,360
the

2253
01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:36,310
paranormal hood as soon as i'm fully

2254
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:38,400
healed i'm going to do another dm

2255
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:41,520
t trip and shroom journeys can you do me

2256
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:42,960
a favor paranormal jiggy

2257
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:45,520
if once you do this i want you to come

2258
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:48,320
on my show and describe the dmt trip

2259
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:50,639
because that's another that's something

2260
01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:51,520
i've never done

2261
01:36:55,270 --> 01:36:53,199
and it's an interest of mine especially

2262
01:36:57,109 --> 01:36:55,280
because dmt is a naturally occurring

2263
01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:57,119
compound in the body and people think

2264
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:58,400
that that dmt

2265
01:37:01,910 --> 01:37:00,960
may have something to do with near-death

2266
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:01,920
experiences

2267
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:04,000
i'm very interested in dmt trips and

2268
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:05,520
never talked to somebody

2269
01:37:08,870 --> 01:37:07,520
i've heard people describe their dmt

2270
01:37:10,629 --> 01:37:08,880
experiences but i've never been able to

2271
01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:10,639
ask questions and things so you got to

2272
01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:12,800
come on and we'll call you a psychonaut

2273
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:14,480
is that what the term is somebody who

2274
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:16,800
explores psychedelic drugs

2275
01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:20,000
uh psycho psychonaut i think

2276
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:22,400
right uh and you can come on and talk

2277
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:23,600
about that we could do it we could

2278
01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:24,639
definitely do a whole show on

2279
01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:31,990
yes carol says i would love to try it on

2280
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:33,520
proper settings i think the proper

2281
01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:34,880
settings are very very

2282
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,229
are very very important you've got to

2283
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:42,000
have the right setting i had

2284
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:44,639
i had a bad one a bad lsd trip once and

2285
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:45,280
that's

2286
01:37:52,149 --> 01:37:49,360
ever had uh and it was terrible i wanted

2287
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:52,159
to go to the hospital

2288
01:37:55,669 --> 01:37:54,480
i thought i was dying and like it was

2289
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:55,679
terrible and i was having these

2290
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:58,159
emotional shock waves come over me

2291
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:01,119
and i was like crying and [\h__\h] was crazy

2292
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:03,119
and like yeah and so i never did it

2293
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:10,790
oh that's creepy paranormal jiggy says

2294
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:11,760
i've done dmt

2295
01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:14,239
twice and it was the closest thing to my

2296
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:15,600
experience when i died

2297
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:17,360
yeah apparently you had a near-death

2298
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:18,719
experience and

2299
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:20,320
you're saying that the dmt experience

2300
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:22,480
was the closest thing to that that's

2301
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,430
vanessa thor where is everyone having

2302
01:38:35,350 --> 01:38:33,440
all this access to shrooms and dmt i'm

2303
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:35,360
surrounded by squares i guess well i was

2304
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:37,679
in the music business so you could

2305
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,560
you could just ask around and at every

2306
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:42,719
concert somebody had shrooms somebody

2307
01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:44,400
had lsd

2308
01:38:48,149 --> 01:38:46,159
they didn't have dmt back then when i

2309
01:38:50,709 --> 01:38:48,159
was doing this kind of stuff they had

2310
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:50,719
tabs of lsd and they would come in this

2311
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:51,440
little

2312
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:53,920
sort of like quarter of a postage stamp

2313
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,639
size

2314
01:38:58,229 --> 01:38:56,239
paper and they'd be stamped with

2315
01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:58,239
something weird and some

2316
01:39:01,750 --> 01:39:00,320
people would want certain ones of those

2317
01:39:02,950 --> 01:39:01,760
stamps

2318
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:02,960
that would tell you what kind of trip

2319
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:04,480
you you know they'd have like a dragon

2320
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:06,080
stamp some of them some of them would

2321
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:07,360
have a smiley face

2322
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:10,159
stamp and i don't know what the stamps

2323
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,679
meant but i know that i had some friends

2324
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:13,679
that were like let's go get some acid

2325
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:15,040
and they're like oh this guy's only got

2326
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:17,440
the dragon tabs i don't want that [\h__\h]

2327
01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:19,040
i had a bad trip on that i want the

2328
01:39:23,109 --> 01:39:21,199
smiley face ones i don't know

2329
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:23,119
what that meant or you know if it was

2330
01:39:26,790 --> 01:39:25,040
different types but yeah they were all

2331
01:39:30,229 --> 01:39:26,800
over shroom's

2332
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:30,239
pot really any drug that i wanted coke

2333
01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:32,960
i i was never into any kind of uh hard

2334
01:39:35,750 --> 01:39:33,840
drugs that

2335
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:35,760
never did coke or heroin or any of that

2336
01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:37,520
stuff but the

2337
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:39,520
hallucinogens were everywhere and pot

2338
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:40,880
was everywhere

2339
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:42,960
especially touring you could basically

2340
01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:44,800
tell the person that was running the

2341
01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:46,639
show that you want to pop when you got

2342
01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:47,119
there

2343
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:48,719
then he would just say like how much do

2344
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,239
you guys need or whatever

2345
01:39:54,149 --> 01:39:52,560
you go get us an ounce or half an ounce

2346
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:54,159
or whatever uh

2347
01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:55,600
same thing with shrooms if you want

2348
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:56,960
shrooms you would tell them and they

2349
01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:58,080
would get them for you and they'd be

2350
01:40:01,990 --> 01:39:58,960
there

2351
01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:02,000
uh when you know you went to the

2352
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:04,880
to the venue to do the show a lot of

2353
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,040
places want to keep the musicians happy

2354
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:11,199
paranormal jiggy says neither was scary

2355
01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:12,320
at all

2356
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:14,400
i mean scary in that it's like a

2357
01:40:17,990 --> 01:40:15,679
near-death experience

2358
01:40:20,830 --> 01:40:18,000
because to me that's a little scary but

2359
01:40:25,669 --> 01:40:20,840
yeah i am interested in dmt

2360
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:28,470
william pixley i never knew this truly

2361
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:30,639
pure coke is wicked amazing but you just

2362
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:31,360
want more

2363
01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:32,880
yeah that's why i never did it because i

2364
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:34,560
have an addictive personality and if i

2365
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:37,600
like something i go full

2366
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:40,080
i go full tilt when i like something i

2367
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:42,560
go full full tilt so and also

2368
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:44,159
when i was in the music business i had

2369
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:45,440
several friends of mine that were on

2370
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:47,280
heroin that i knew that were [\h__\h]

2371
01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:48,159
mess

2372
01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:50,880
and later uh several musician friends of

2373
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:53,119
mine that died from heroin so

2374
01:40:56,950 --> 01:40:55,360
heroin especially people offered that to

2375
01:40:58,629 --> 01:40:56,960
me constantly

2376
01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:58,639
constantly people offered that to me and

2377
01:41:02,229 --> 01:41:00,639
even like i'd meet a girl

2378
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:02,239
i'd go back to her place and she'd be

2379
01:41:05,669 --> 01:41:04,080
like oh i'm just gonna get right and i

2380
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:05,679
was young and naive i'm like what do you

2381
01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:06,960
mean you're gonna get right

2382
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,639
and this girl starts pulling out this

2383
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:10,560
needle and the spoon and [\h__\h] and i was

2384
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:12,239
like i gotta go

2385
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:15,360
i don't wanna i'm a little like uh i

2386
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:16,400
don't like needles

2387
01:41:19,669 --> 01:41:18,480
and i sure i sure as [\h__\h] don't want to

2388
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:19,679
watch somebody boot up

2389
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:25,669
six of design i only smoke herbs and

2390
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,360
drink beer now all those recreational

2391
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:28,960
drugs are something of the past and i'm

2392
01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:29,840
fine with it

2393
01:41:34,390 --> 01:41:31,679
yeah i hear you that's kind of where i'm

2394
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:34,400
at and i got a medical card

2395
01:41:39,750 --> 01:41:37,520
so uh actually because of the necropolis

2396
01:41:52,470 --> 01:41:39,760
in my paralyzed eye i qualify for a

2397
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:54,149
yeah friends so i guess we're going to

2398
01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:56,080
wrap things up here tomorrow we'll be

2399
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:57,679
doing another show either at

2400
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:00,800
9 00 or 10 p.m uh

2401
01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:03,520
or probably 10 p.m i'm going to the

2402
01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:06,239
cabin tomorrow so uh

2403
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:08,239
i will probably be doing the show from

2404
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:09,600
the cabin maybe we'll do another

2405
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:10,560
fireside chat

2406
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:13,119
gotta check on some things there and i

2407
01:42:17,109 --> 01:42:15,360
never know like what time i'm

2408
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:17,119
i can't leave until my wife's done work

2409
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:18,960
and i don't know when she's done work

2410
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:22,080
so uh yeah maybe a late show tomorrow

2411
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:23,600
if i don't get there too late and then

2412
01:42:27,430 --> 01:42:25,040
it takes me a little bit of time to set

2413
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:27,440
everything up over there

2414
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:29,280
so uh but there should be a show

2415
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:31,440
tomorrow night i think that that would

2416
01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:31,920
be

2417
01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:34,159
good we are once again here tonight

2418
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:36,000
watering this garden

2419
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:40,400
and uh surely this garden will grow

2420
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:43,520
oh uh that's another thing let me

2421
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,669
but i think

2422
01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:56,149
i think we had i think we have reached a

2423
01:43:06,470 --> 01:43:03,910
yes we did so i'm happy to report and

2424
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:06,480
announce that we now have 501

2425
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:07,520
subscribers

2426
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:10,800
uh so we are halfway to monetization

2427
01:43:14,790 --> 01:43:13,280
praise the cash praise the cash praise

2428
01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:14,800
the cash we're halfway there youtube

2429
01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:15,679
algorithm

2430
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:20,719
us get the remaining 499 subscribers so

2431
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,760
that we too

2432
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:23,520
can praise the cash every time a super

2433
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:24,960
chat donation comes in

2434
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:27,600
praise the cash we're halfway there

2435
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,960
we're halfway there

2436
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,239
you know i didn't think that this is

2437
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,320
going to take this long i

2438
01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:34,800
that was an arrogant mistake on my part

2439
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:35,600
i thought

2440
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:37,679
i'll start this new channel i you know

2441
01:43:40,149 --> 01:43:39,199
we'll get we'll get to the thousand

2442
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:40,159
subscribers you know

2443
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:42,480
in a few weeks and we'll be good uh

2444
01:43:44,709 --> 01:43:43,840
we're a few months in and we're only

2445
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:44,719
halfway there

2446
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:48,880
it's a lot harder than i remember uh

2447
01:43:52,229 --> 01:43:50,560
you know it's a lot harder than i

2448
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:52,239
remembered to build a channel

2449
01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:53,920
i hadn't done it since i don't know when

2450
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:55,760
i started my last channel but probably

2451
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:56,800
five or eight years

2452
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:00,480
probably eight years ago it's not easy

2453
01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:02,880
uh but i'm thankful we're halfway there

2454
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:04,800
and we're at about fifteen thousand

2455
01:44:08,070 --> 01:44:06,080
views which is good

2456
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:08,080
uh we're just under according to youtube

2457
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:10,239
but we have separate views on twitch

2458
01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:13,280
and on facebook as well

2459
01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:15,600
so friends uh i want to thank you all

2460
01:44:19,030 --> 01:44:17,280
for joining me tonight and sort of

2461
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:19,040
indulging me because i know that this is

2462
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:19,440
not

2463
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,600
catholic mysteries and paranormal stuff

2464
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,840
is not a usual topic for our sort of

2465
01:44:28,149 --> 01:44:25,920
community but i think that these things

2466
01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:28,159
are interesting and worthy of exploring

2467
01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:30,639
for sure

2468
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:32,960
so friends until next time my name is